Age and Chess mastery

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cagribey93

I'm 24 years old and Magnus Carlsen was the world chess champion at my age.So I think I'm too late for chess mastery.Do you agree? 

cagribey93

Go and come back ? What do you mean 

cagribey93

I see but the children learn easier and have more free time than adults.So maybe even 40 years may not be sufficient 

cagribey93

No it does not neighbor.So what should be my goal in playing chess? Just to spend time like a card game? Why to play chess then and get mentally tired ? 

cagribey93

Why do you prefer this hobby as there are thousands of other hobbies? 

The_Chin_Of_Quinn
cagribey93 wrote:

I'm 24 years old and Magnus Carlsen was the world chess champion at my age.So I think I'm too late for chess mastery.Do you agree? 

If by mastery you mean world champion... then yes, lol.

You can improve many 100s of points though. Learn a lot, and beat players who seem invincible to you now. The main point is whether or not you enjoy it. That's fundamentally why people play chess.

cagribey93

@jengaias wow! You never get tired when you play chess? 

BlunderLots
cagribey93 wrote:

I'm 24 years old and Magnus Carlsen was the world chess champion at my age.So I think I'm too late for chess mastery.Do you agree? 

 

Chess "mastery" is generally considered to be reached when you hit 2200 (or 2300) ELO.

If you're hoping to be World Champion, it's unlikely—not simply because of age, but because it's pretty damn hard in general. Even a 2650-rated grandmaster has little chance of becoming a world champion these days.

But if you're hoping to reach 2200-2300? It's certainly possible, at most any age.

You'll have to study, though. Review your games. Understand your mistakes and blunders, and figure out what to do better the next time.

If you really want to reach 2200+, getting a master-level coach is one of the best ways to do it. But if that's not an option, there are a lot of good books out there to help.

MickinMD

The younger you are, the more pliable your brain is (I'm a retired teacher with an Advanced Teaching Certificate and have taken courses in Cognition and Learning),  I know that I'll NEVER be an tremendous pianist, although I'm pretty good now.  Students who get apply to the music college where I study piano in the adult program, the world-class Peabody Conservatory of Johns Hopkins University, rarely are accepted unless they began serious study in a musical instrument by age 6 and practice and avg. 4 hours per day.

If I practiced piano 4 hours/day, I'd surely become good enough to be a piano bar player, but would never reach the level where a symphony orchestra would want me.

I've been strongly interested in science since I began school. I wanted to become a chemist beginning at age 12.  Eventually I completed graduate school in chemistry at IIT and later became chief chemist of process research for a subsidiary of Dow Chemical.

So I know what it takes to reach the top and know what age does when you start later in life.

With chess, the best thing to do is try to improve.  Only when you find you can't and nothing you do seems to help, will you know if you can be an A-Player, Expert, Master, or something less.

 

workhard91

Just try your best and work hard to improve. Don't think about limitations and don't listen to others. Eventually you will improve and change your methods accordingly to continue improving. It is not clear where you will get before you try. In the end your motivation, time and working methods will decide how far you will be going. I hope this helps and I wish you good luck

Ester12

Hi, does anyone like to be my chess friend by Skype? We can solve chess tavtyics and analyse

our games. Skype has option demonstrate screen, Its good works.I am 36 yearold

Ester12

I. don't know what happens, add me to Skype again, will improve chess toigether.

thegreat_patzer

 @Ester

I've done that some.  its kind of tricky to do.  perhaps we can talk about it some.

 

at any rate, note that the OP isn't here any more.

 

this is what is SO crazy about people asking about massive accomplishments like becoming a chess master- they often have such Shallow interest in chess.  Yet I'm sure the Fervent interest must come FIRST before they can be sky-high ambitious goals.

 

Surely Age is no reason Not to start chess... while I'm a little older (in the 40's) and a Master title is all but certainly NOT going to happen.   the advantage of being interested in chess as an older adult is a certain Life experience with myself;  I don't make huge promises to myself that I'm NOT going to follow through and I tend to follow through on the commitments I make.

 

Add to THAT a certain amount of freedom I would Not have as a kid.

IF I want to buy a chess book, I buy it! if I want to talk to a chess coach- I don't have to "do my homework FIRST"... and I have emotional maturity to understand Who I must please to be able to enjoy my hobbies.

 

All this is something I would NOT have as a kid.

 

as a kid I would have surely fell for the "I'm gonna be a GM" HARD.  and it would have made a challenging hobby no easier.

 

IMBacon22
cagribey93 wrote:

I'm 24 years old and Magnus Carlsen was the world chess champion at my age.So I think I'm too late for chess mastery.Do you agree? 

Account already closed.  Apparently he doesnt think chess is worth it if he cant be a world champion, or master chess.  I dont think anyone has ever mastered chess, and there has been how many world champions in the last 100 years?  IIts to bad that the OP couldnt just enjoy the game, and learn.  Goals are great, but they need to be realistic.  

My peak USF rating was 1800+  I now sit at my rating floor, and i know for certain that i know more now than i did at 1800.  I have set a goal of making Expert.  At 54 that is the best i think i can hope for.  

dk-Ltd

I read somewhere that a man's brain develops as far as the age of 30, depending on the individual (for women is less, since it develops earlier). Therefore, certainly you won't be as good and learn as fast as someone who started young, but you might be able to dedicate few new brain cells to chess.

 

I started chess, past 30 and my brain was sculpted and optimized to work on other things, like math and programming. There are no brain cells in my brain, optimized for chess and yet I play and enjoy it.

IMBacon22
StupidGM wrote:

I'm fifty.  If I don't make world champion it'll be because I lacked the ability, not because I was too old.

Dont you think youll lack the ability because of age?

kindaspongey

Possibly of interest:
What It Takes to Become a Chess Master by Andrew Soltis
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708093409/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review857.pdf
100 Chess Master Trade Secrets by Andrew Soltis
https://web.archive.org/web/20140708094523/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/review916.pdf
Reaching the Top?! by Peter Kurzdorfer
http://www.thechessmind.net/blog/2015/11/16/book-notice-kurzdorfers-reaching-the-top.html
http://www.jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Reaching-the-Top-77p3905.htm
https://www.chess.com/article/view/don-t-worry-about-your-rating
https://www.chess.com/article/view/am-i-too-old-for-chess