algebraic notation

Me too! An excellent little book, which I am AMAZED no-one has reprinted...

What a blast from the past! It was my first chess book because it was highly recommended by all the chessplayers I knew back then. I still have it, although the binding came apart and it was chewed by a dog. I think it is an excellent beginner's book. I too am AMAZED it hasn't been re-printed or at least it's format copied.

I think when Sahovski published the first Chess Informants in 1966, that started the shift in the English speaking world from descriptive to algebraic.  All the world's leading grandmasters were involved in annotating games for Informant: Smyslov, Tal, Petrosian, Spassky, Fischer, Karpov.  FIDE announced their new title-holders there, published tournament crosstables and starting in 1970 the Elo rating lists.  Informant became required reading for active tournament players, and maybe around 1976, British publishers started shifting over to algebraic.  I somehow doubt that computers had anything to do with it, because they didn't become popular until much later.

 Is this guy cheating ?!  A bishop on black squares cannot move to e4, which is a white square ! Unless he is counting the square the BK stands on, 4 squares in front of the BK is e4 ! 

Descriptive notation is also known as Anglo-American notation and English notation.  No matter what it is known as, I never liked it.  I was so glad to learn about Algebraic.

Does anyone know of a program that translates descriptive to algebraic.  Many of my chess books are in descriptive and I would like to post some of those old games and problems, but it takes me some time to translate them. 

You could try Don Fong's chessbd.

I grew up on long algebraic notation for many years.  I remember I had only one book all that time which used long algebraic notation.  I liked that I knew where a piece originated from when you are taking back moves as it indicated the starting squares.  I notated my chess games only in that format.

I bought Lasker's Manual of Chess for 25cents which brought me to descriptive notation.  Lasker used an older version of it which used kt instead of N and a few other small differences.  I switched to this format for my games.

I only use short algebraic notation now as it is apparent everywhere nowadays.

Personally I like descriptive notation the best, but I use algebraic and descriptive interchangeably.

I grew up (until about age 30) with descriptive notation (called in those days English Notation). While replaying a published game (pre-computer era of course) there might be a position in which either of two knights could hop to the same square. I always puzzled over the Move: KN-Q6. Which of my knights was the KN and which was the QN? By this point in the game I could no longer recall. I solved the problem by placing my knights in their starting positions, facing each other! End of problem. Ah, the good old days. I learned enough Russian to use algebraic and subscribe to Shakmaty Byulletin.

I should have typed KKt-Q6.

It would have been easier to learn chess if the books I learned from had algebraic notation.

I just checked a few Dutch books wich are 80 years old now.

Guess what? Algebraic notation :p. I guess some countries just like to hang on to very old systems, even if they are outdated.

I still set up my knights facing each other because of that just out of habit.   I used to determine which knight to move when writing the notation by writing: N (KB7)- KR8. It could get messy when writing capture notations, too.  Oh, what fun it was!

It was very confusing for me to learn descriptive notation, because each square has two different notations.  h8 is written KR8 for White and KR1 for Black. I had teach myself, because I knew no one that knew anything about chess, and trying to learn from books using descriptive wasn't easy for me, so I marked each square with both notations on the chess board until I could move without checking. In writing the notations one has to write the opponent's moves as seen from his side of the board, thus it seems strange for those not familiar with descriptive to see 1. P-K4, P-K4 instead of 1. e4, e5. It seems clumsy now to me after using algebraic notation.  Once I became accustom to descriptive I could make notations without any problems, but going back to it now would slow me down for a while. 

A partial solution is to look for those games in databases by the players names, date, event, etc. If you find them they will be in algebraic.

On the first move I gave her the algebraic notation, but on the second I gave her the distributive notation.  I am teaching her chess, but I have not taught her about notation as of yet.  She said it was not the correct move.  “Are you sure?” I asked.  She was sure.  I looked again, it had to be correct, but I have been wrong before. Ha, many times, to be exact.   After asking her again and receiving the same answer I just had to check the answer myself. I was correct, but I laughed and thought of this thread.  I often think in descriptive when playing, such as QxB, but will write the notation in algebraic. Please see post #95, because I left out a pawn that is supposed to be on e3.

 This one is correct! 

I guess I can delete my statement now.

Well, delete the diagram from the post and put a new one. You can type that you corrected it.

Of course! I did it.  Even then I almost copies that one incorrect.  Thanks.