Am I a chess master?!

Sort:
ilikeflags

this thread blows

Mimchi

In an alternate universe, my vast multicultural background of hundreds of years experience studying patterns and concepts relating to chess (I can live up to 300 years in this universe), has enabled me to strip the game of chess down to it's core and essence. Thus, 1.e4 leads to a win for White in 67 moves, and 1.d4 leads to a win for White in 64 moves. I cannot lose, but since the challenge of the game is gone, so too I cannot win. For true enjoyment comes from the challenge to overcome, and if that obstacle is withdrawn, what is chess? A meaningless exercise of shuffling pieces until the mate is inevitable.

What a sad, horrific universe, is the one where chess has been solved.

ilikeflags

as i said, this thread blows.

milsrilion
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
woodshover wrote:

I'm watching a documentary on the tube right now called "The Universe" and they're saying that there might be an infinite number of parallel universes. Thus an infinite number of copies of everyone on earth. If it could have happened on earth, it HAS happened somewhere in another universe. So I guess we can all start calling ourseves chess masters. LOL.


More than that, there's a universe where GM Woodshover is World Champion and doesn't have time to post nonsense on chess websites.


I'd be surprised if I ever found a chess website in such a universe. ;)

thesexyknight
orangehonda wrote:
thesexyknight wrote:
TheGrobe wrote:
thesexyknight wrote:

The other day Hawkings released an essay arguing on behalf of time travel. You would need either a "worm hole, a black hole, or a really really fast space ship". So if any of you guys have one of those, invite me over so we can go time traveling and prevent this topic from ever getting off track


Hawking said that only time travel forward through time would be possible, not backwards.

My first reaction was, well of course captain obvious -- we're all doing it right now.


Well, by going in a really really fast rocket you slow down time. And of course their's einstein's theory that you can see through time (I"m pretty sure that was forwards and backwards). I was under the impression that wormholes/blackholes could essentially end up anywhere because of how they ripple space. But it doesn't really matter now does it


Yeah but slowing down time is how you relatively move forward through it.

Seeing the past is funny because we do that all the time -- I forgot how the seeing ahead thing worked though?


The principle was proven when Einstein bent light a couple degrees during an eclypse. The eclypse isn't really relevant except that it helped let the researchers see the light. But the idea is that with enough curved lenses light bends back on itself thereby seeing something that has already occured. I can't recall how it was that whole seeing the future thing worked though, but it operated on the same principle.

El_Gremio

yes indeed.

Conflagration_Planet
SavageLotus wrote:

Are you a chess master? Short answer - no.


 Too bad your intelligence only allows for short answers.

ilikeflags
milsrilion wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
woodshover wrote:

I'm watching a documentary on the tube right now called "The Universe" and they're saying that there might be an infinite number of parallel universes. Thus an infinite number of copies of everyone on earth. If it could have happened on earth, it HAS happened somewhere in another universe. So I guess we can all start calling ourseves chess masters. LOL.


More than that, there's a universe where GM Woodshover is World Champion and doesn't have time to post nonsense on chess websites.


I'd be surprised if I ever found a chess website on such a universe. ;)


me too

PrawnEatsPrawn
ilikeflags wrote:
milsrilion wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
woodshover wrote:

I'm watching a documentary on the tube right now called "The Universe" and they're saying that there might be an infinite number of parallel universes. Thus an infinite number of copies of everyone on earth. If it could have happened on earth, it HAS happened somewhere in another universe. So I guess we can all start calling ourseves chess masters. LOL.


More than that, there's a universe where GM Woodshover is World Champion and doesn't have time to post nonsense on chess websites.


I'd be surprised if I ever found a chess website on such a universe. ;)


me tool


Don't be so hard on yourself.

milsrilion
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
ilikeflags wrote:
milsrilion wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
woodshover wrote:

I'm watching a documentary on the tube right now called "The Universe" and they're saying that there might be an infinite number of parallel universes. Thus an infinite number of copies of everyone on earth. If it could have happened on earth, it HAS happened somewhere in another universe. So I guess we can all start calling ourseves chess masters. LOL.


More than that, there's a universe where GM Woodshover is World Champion and doesn't have time to post nonsense on chess websites.


I'd be surprised if I ever found a chess website on such a universe. ;)


me tool


Don't be so hard on yourself.


All the while, I thought we were just having fun! ;)

ilikeflags

i'm not having fun.  i'm gouging my eyes out right now. 

PrawnEatsPrawn
ilikeflags wrote:

i'm not having fun.  i'm gouging my eyes out right now. 


Maybe it's time for one of those much vaunted "flag's forums" (post before it's locked). It has been a while and some of us are variously chaffing/champing/chomping at the bit.

DMX21x1

I don't like it, I want variety in the universe. I'm sure there is another Earth like planet where dinosaurs still run free but the idea of a carbon copy of me out there somewhere in the far flung reaches of space???.....Poor bastard. 

Conflagration_Planet
DMX21x1 wrote:

I don't like it, I want variety in the universe. I'm sure there is another Earth like planet where dinosaurs still run free but the idea of a carbon copy of me out there somewhere in the far flung reaches of space???.....Poor bastard. 


They DID mention earths where the asteroid didn't hit, and dinosaurs still roamed free. 

Conflagration_Planet
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


How dare you flagrantly parade reasoning and logic on Chess.com? I suggest you find a universe where it will be appreciated.


 Don't worry, he's not guilty of reasoning, and logic, because his logic is all wrong. Deliberately not allowing something in an infinite set proves nothing because the infinite set of particals in the universe allows anything that is physically possible. Orangehonda was also wrong about me being GM Woodshover in another part of the universe because (as I said earlier) I don't think I would ever have been a GM even having been trained under the best of circumstances, just as most other people wouldn't have either. If you would have never had the ability to do something on Earth even under the best of training, there would not be another earth where you were able to do it either.

Jahgro
woodshover wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


How dare you flagrantly parade reasoning and logic on Chess.com? I suggest you find a universe where it will be appreciated.


 Don't worry, he's not guilty of reasoning, and logic, because his logic is all wrong. Deliberately not allowing something in an infinite set proves nothing because the infinite set of particals in the universe allows anything that is physically possible. Orangehonda was also wrong about me being GM Woodshover in another part of the universe because (as I said earlier) I don't think I would ever have been a GM even having been trained under the best of circumstances, just as most other people wouldn't have either. If you would have never had the ability to do something on Earth even under the best of training, there would not be another earth where you were able to do it either.


Wow, you are kind of creepy.  Just let it go.  You make up your own rules to a game, and don't listen to reasoning.  You watch a tv show, and all of a sudden you are an expert on the subject.  Come on, get real.

To show how stupid your logic is, lets look at this example.  You say it's impossible for you to become a GM.  However look at Judit Polgar.  She was trained to be a GM. Was she a GM from Nature or Nurture?  You make up your own rules, You don't understand what you say. You claim people are wrong when you have no clue. 

Vhazhiphor
woodshover wrote:

 But this "god" wouldn't be able to perform miracles that defied the laws of physics. If it is a task that no matter how much training I went through, I would never be able to do on this earth even if I'd grown up with the finest of training, then in no part of the universe would I be performing it.


Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I didn't feel like looking through all of the posts.

Isn't it a bit egotistical to consider yourself the original? That there are infinite copies of you, and not that you may be just one of the copies? Perhaps you are a "less developed" (if you will) copy of a godlike being, or a being with the potential for godhood. In this case, it is perfectly acceptable to assume that another "you" may be a god in another universe. It doesn't mean that that copy somehow surpassed your utmost potential, but rather that you just don't live up to "your" true potential in this world's incarnation.

Conflagration_Planet
Jahgro wrote:
woodshover wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


How dare you flagrantly parade reasoning and logic on Chess.com? I suggest you find a universe where it will be appreciated.


 Don't worry, he's not guilty of reasoning, and logic, because his logic is all wrong. Deliberately not allowing something in an infinite set proves nothing because the infinite set of particals in the universe allows anything that is physically possible. Orangehonda was also wrong about me being GM Woodshover in another part of the universe because (as I said earlier) I don't think I would ever have been a GM even having been trained under the best of circumstances, just as most other people wouldn't have either. If you would have never had the ability to do something on Earth even under the best of training, there would not be another earth where you were able to do it either.


Wow, you are kind of creepy.  Just let it go.  You make up your own rules to a game, and don't listen to reasoning.  You watch a tv show, and all of a sudden you are an expert on the subject.  Come on, get real.

To show how stupid your logic is, lets look at this example.  You say it's impossible for you to become a GM.  However look at Judit Polgar.  She was trained to be a GM. Was she a GM from Nature or Nurture?  You make up your own rules, You don't understand what you say. You claim people are wrong when you have no clue. 


You're at least as guilty of those things as I am, and you're the one who needs to get a clue. In the case of Judit Polgar, I would say it was nature AND nurture.  Scads, and SCADS of young children are taught to play chess at very early age, and never come close to becoming GMs even when they continue to play chess into adulthood.

Jahgro
woodshover wrote:
Jahgro wrote:
woodshover wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:
Jahgro wrote:

Just because it could happen, doesn't mean it has happened.

For example, an infinite set of numbers doesn't always contain every number.  The set of numbers

{2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12 ...} is an infinite set of numbers, yet it contains no odd numbers.

Even if there are an infinite number of parallel universes, it doesn't mean everything that could happen, has happened.


How dare you flagrantly parade reasoning and logic on Chess.com? I suggest you find a universe where it will be appreciated.


 Don't worry, he's not guilty of reasoning, and logic, because his logic is all wrong. Deliberately not allowing something in an infinite set proves nothing because the infinite set of particals in the universe allows anything that is physically possible. Orangehonda was also wrong about me being GM Woodshover in another part of the universe because (as I said earlier) I don't think I would ever have been a GM even having been trained under the best of circumstances, just as most other people wouldn't have either. If you would have never had the ability to do something on Earth even under the best of training, there would not be another earth where you were able to do it either.


Wow, you are kind of creepy.  Just let it go.  You make up your own rules to a game, and don't listen to reasoning.  You watch a tv show, and all of a sudden you are an expert on the subject.  Come on, get real.

To show how stupid your logic is, lets look at this example.  You say it's impossible for you to become a GM.  However look at Judit Polgar.  She was trained to be a GM. Was she a GM from Nature or Nurture?  You make up your own rules, You don't understand what you say. You claim people are wrong when you have no clue. 


You're at least as guilty of those things as I am, and you're the one who needs to get a clue. In the case of Judit Polgar, I would say it was nature AND nurture.  Scads, and SCADS of young children are taught to play chess at very early age, and never come close to becoming GMs even when they continue to play chess into adulthood.


lol, maybe you should look at how Judit Polgar was taught. Do a little research.

If you remember, the only thing I had ever said, is just because something is infinite, that doesn't mean it contains everything.

Conflagration_Planet

 To poster above ^ Mathematicians disagree, I'm afraid. ^