am i a prodigy? - Chess Forums - Page 2

madhacker

Jan 27, 2015

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#21

1250 after learning the game three months ago is pretty decent and suggests you've got some natural ability, but you've still got to put the work in to develop into a strong player. Learning as an adult is a handicap as well (although not an insurmountable one).

Don't even think of becoming a "top" player, it ain't gonna happen, e.g. Carlsen was about 2050 at age 10. In concrete terms, that means that Magnus age 10 would smash someone who would smash you.

Mottley

Jan 27, 2015

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#22

ZackBlack23 wrote:

hmm..well thanks for the feedback everyone, albeit they mostly negative. But I still believe that I am a prodigy and will one day join the ranks of bobby fischer and magnus carlson.. thank you all, and you heard it here first :)

You have a very long way to go to prove your optimism.

Tell everyone when you win your first otb tourney, and keep winning until your a GM and beat the worlds top 10 players

One day reality will kick in and you will think,"Boy I have been a jerk!"

DjonniDerevnja

Jan 27, 2015

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#23

Prodigy or not. I dont know. But what I know is that you are talented, does some good work, and have good progress. I like that.

goingforyourqueen

Jan 27, 2015

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#24

madhacker wrote:

1250 after learning the game three months ago is pretty decent and suggests you've got some natural ability, but you've still got to put the work in to develop into a strong player. Learning as an adult is a handicap as well (although not an insurmountable one).

Don't even think of becoming a "top" player, it ain't gonna happen, e.g. Carlsen was about 2050 at age 10. In concrete terms, that means that Magnus age 10 would smash someone who would smash you.

The fact that a 10 year old Magnus Carlsen would beat me is so depressing... lol

TheGreatOogieBoogie

Jan 27, 2015

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#25

long_quach wrote:

I discovered this phenomenon when I was 10 years old, playing ping pong. After one month, I could beat 50% of the people that come to play, even adults. Then I realized it is harder and harder to beat the rest. It wasn't until I was 30 years old, playing ping pong on and off (mostly off), that I became "ping pong champion of the neighborhood".

The reason is simple. It is logarithm. It is built into nature. The Elo rating is system is modeled on the way energy is stored. Energy is stored exactly the same way in whatever form. Buy rechargeable batteries. Charge it. Let say it takes 1 hour to charge half the battery, it takes 1 more hour to charge half of what’s left, and another hour to charge half of what’s left, and so on.

It’s the same way energy is stored in a bow, or a Bowflex exercise machine. This is actually a flaw in the exercise system. You pull on a bowflex (or a bow) half way, it’s easy. Then it gets harder and harder and harder to pull the rest of the half way.

The law of diminishing returns can have a sobering effect when it's encountered. Yeah the 1500's get breezed by within a few months and the 1800s while not exactly pushovers get into consistent enough trouble, but the high 1900s seem to be radically more difficult especially if they have a style of play that counters yours. Then you need something radical to improve and is probably where a coach comes in. Even so rapid improvement happens in the lower ranks because you need to learn simple and basic things to improve whereas you need more patterns to improve at higher levels and isn't a straight line. Knowing 200 tactical patterns might make you 1000, but you'd need far more than 400 to make 2000 for example.

CerebralAssassin19

Jan 27, 2015

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#26

busting 1248 in 3 months?pfff....I can do that.Here...hold my beer...

oh wait...

Long_Hair_Dont_Care

Jan 27, 2015

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#27

Ive gone from 900ish to over 1500 in less than a year. Progress I'm proud of but I wouldnt consider myself a prodigy. Now if you keep jumping in rating every 3 months maybe your really on to something.

Elroch

Jan 27, 2015

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#28

ZackBlack23 wrote:

I started playing about 3 months ago and i was fluctuating between 1000-1100 for a while until recently now its like i can't lose and im currently at 1248 in standard.. why did i get so good? I didnt even study or anything lol

If you have to ask ...

If you want to see what a prodigy on chess.com looks like, kacparov springs to mind (joined chess.com at 12, now 18). Amazing at fast games.

DjonniDerevnja

Jan 27, 2015

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#29

goingforyourqueen wrote:

madhacker wrote:

1250 after learning the game three months ago is pretty decent and suggests you've got some natural ability, but you've still got to put the work in to develop into a strong player. Learning as an adult is a handicap as well (although not an insurmountable one).

Don't even think of becoming a "top" player, it ain't gonna happen, e.g. Carlsen was about 2050 at age 10. In concrete terms, that means that Magnus age 10 would smash someone who would smash you.

The fact that a 10 year old Magnus Carlsen would beat me is so depressing... lol

I might meet the 9 year old Andreas Tenold soon. He is favourite. I am ok with that. My best chance is if I can survive to the endgame, and that he almost falls asleep 2 hours after bedtime. It is possible, because it is late evening match.

madhacker

Jan 27, 2015

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#30

goingforyourqueen wrote:

The fact that a 10 year old Magnus Carlsen would beat me is so depressing... lol

Frighteningly, this kid is 10 (or possibly just turned 11, born 2004)

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14204118

Aetheldred

Jan 27, 2015

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#31

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awonder_Liang

hapless_fool

Jan 27, 2015

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#32

Hate to see such abuse but it's like the "pig in a blanket" Geico commercial. "I guess I set myself up for that".

Aetheldred

Jan 27, 2015

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#33

madhacker wrote:

goingforyourqueen wrote:

The fact that a 10 year old Magnus Carlsen would beat me is so depressing... lol

Frighteningly, this kid is 10 (or possibly just turned 11, born 2004)

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14204118

For me it is both frightening and amazing when you fire up Komodo or Stockfish and they build, improve and re-invent 500 years of human evolution in chess in a matter of seconds.

TheGreatOogieBoogie

Jan 27, 2015

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#34

madhacker wrote:

goingforyourqueen wrote:

The fact that a 10 year old Magnus Carlsen would beat me is so depressing... lol

Frighteningly, this kid is 10 (or possibly just turned 11, born 2004)

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14204118

He has an amazing combination vision too:

madhacker

Jan 27, 2015

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#35

Pretty brutal, but this is where kids typically excel - tactics and combinations. The more subtle strategic understanding takes a bit longer to develop.

blitzjoker

Jan 27, 2015

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#36

I remember being disappointed when I got to around 13 and realised I was too old to be a prodigy at anything. I'm 56 now, and I'm still not really over it.

If you are really 23, I think the ship 'Prodigy' has sailed. Still, you're doing ok, so just enjoy the game.

Nekhemevich

Jan 27, 2015

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#37

You don't need approval. Just kick everyone's ass.

imirak

Jan 27, 2015

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#38

When they are first discovered, most prodigies aren't old enough to know how to spell "prodigy".

So, probably not

goingforyourqueen

Jan 27, 2015

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#39

TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:

madhacker wrote:

goingforyourqueen wrote:

The fact that a 10 year old Magnus Carlsen would beat me is so depressing... lol

Frighteningly, this kid is 10 (or possibly just turned 11, born 2004)

https://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=14204118

He has an amazing combination vision too:

That's it, I'm taking up something that only adults can do in a casino. lol

timone_ony

Jan 27, 2015

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#40

The same happened to me Im a prodigy too