Am I too late to become a master?

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Doggy_Style wrote:
Andre_Harding wrote:

...LESS losses bother you, the higher the level you can reach.

Profound words.

True. Things might get paradoxical though if you use this as a strategy to get better Tongue Out Because if you end up not getting bothered at the loss, and your rating doesn't improve, then you will end up getting bothered by the loss after all because the strategy didn't work.

So I think a better approach is to simply be happy anytime you learn more about the game, with rating improvements merely a (very cool) bonus. Every new thing you learn should feel like, I don't know, Edison creating a working light bulb :p

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Elubas, if you work earnestly and play tournaments frequently, and are not bothered by losses, your rating will improve. Fast.

Care about the games, but don't be bothered by losing them, study hard, and you will get there. Experts and Masters suck. Trust me.

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you're only 17. Your brain is still brand spanking new...if it isn't genetically limited in some way. Your modest goal is reachable. Don't let yourself be discouraged.

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Andre_Harding wrote:

Come on people. The defeatism in a lot of these posts is very strange.

The OP said "master." He did not say "World Champion" or "Grandmaster" or even "FIDE titled player."

A late starter can absolutely become a master (2200 USCF/2100 FIDE) if they have a decent study plan and are able to play good tournaments, and if they are willing to make it the primary focus of their life. Most people delude themselves into thinking they work hard at chess, but they don't.

Here's a personal tip: the MORE you play tournaments and the LESS losses bother you, the higher the level you can reach.

Almost everything you said here is incorrect.

- It's not defeatism. It's realism.

- Forget about all the bogus titles cm/nm/fm and what not for a minute. A chessmaster is an IM which means 2400+

- 2100-2200 is just an above average very decent clubplayer. Nothing more.

- Losing should bother you less? That's the worst of all. Every single great champion made that abundantly clear. Winners are addicts. They hate losing. They feel it to the deepest depths, the core of their soul.

- The OP said somewhere " but I'd love to make money in the chess industry someday" Well, below 2400-2500 you can forget about that. As a player that is.

- I'm not gonna lie to the OP. He might do it but the chance of that is EXTREMELY small.

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@nobody really:

I specified the rating range I had in mind, so if you want to speak of a higher range I won't argue.

I also agree that playing chess for money won't happen below about 2500.

As far as not being bothered by losses, the point is to not avoid playing tournaments out of a fear of losing.

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Okido

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Yes, you are

You will die a complete failure and everybody here will laugh at your inadequate life

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nobodyreally wrote:
 

Almost everything you said here is incorrect.

- It's not defeatism. It's realism.

- Forget about all the bogus titles cm/nm/fm and what not for a minute. A chessmaster is an IM which means 2400+ Is your title bogus? I do not think so, but the OP did not ask about becoming an IM. He asked about being a master, at the national level, like you.

- 2100-2200 is just an above average very decent clubplayer. Nothing more. What clubs do you belong to? I have been involved with 3 clubs in my life. In this three clubs, there were a TOTAL of 2 players above USCF 2100.

- Losing should bother you less? That's the worst of all. Every single great champion made that abundantly clear. Winners are addicts. They hate losing. They feel it to the deepest depths, the core of their soul. Agree. If you accept losing, you will not be driven to improve. Saying otherwise is pc liberal nonsense.

- The OP said somewhere " but I'd love to make money in the chess industry someday" Well, below 2400-2500 you can forget about that. As a player that is. Yes, but the OP said as a journalist. Even below 2700, you will struggle to pay the bills with playing alone.

- I'm not gonna lie to the OP. He might do it but the chance of that is EXTREMELY small. I agree that his goal of reaching NM is small. That was not his question. It IS possible. Becoming a GM? 100% impossible.

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Not going to read that so...

 

No

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First of all, FM is an international title. Not a national one. And yes, it's a bogus title. There are probably over 10/20 thousand of them worldwide. It means zilch. And yes I consider it bogus. I never asked for it, my federation stuck me with it, some 30 years ago. No way to get rid of it. And believe me, I tried. Once a FM, always a FM.

Almost every club I played in/for there were at least 30-40 players over 2100. In my small federation there are probably 2500-3000 over 2100 players (from 25000). I am guessing, I need to look that up later. Not sure.

Where did he say "as a journalist"? Haven't seen it. What post?

The last bit about NM vs GM is just incorrect reasoning.

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But hey, you get highlighted posts, that has to count for something!

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I learned how pieces moves like Three years ago out of boredom when i was like 23. Then i saw morphy games :) oh man it looked like miracle to me. such disrecpect for material and standarts. something amazing...then i got into chess Read cappas book which was simple and fun to read analyzed some games, endings, tactics openings and i think improved little by little but like year ago i really started to feel like i know how to play and games in that point gave me joy. So i stopped completely to study anything exept watching other playing blitz on youtube and my rating and playing strenght stuck on that point :) but atleast blitz games gives me joy and fun so im happy with that and ill never study sth about chess i think, just play for fun my patzer game... But you a different story u only 17 and if you work passionate on it im sure that you wil be master. Good luck!

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@glorax, I wonder what colour will it be if he is a NM ?  pink ?

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nobodyreally wrote:

First of all, FM is an international title. Not a national one. Yes, FM is an international title. The OP is asking about something far less...simply NM. And yes, it's a bogus title. There are probably over 10/20 thousand of them worldwide. It means zilch. Even though you claim that it is nothing, zilch, you still thought it worth your time to provide evidence to chess.com of your title, so thaat they con put it in front of your name. I do not accept your false modesty, but that is not out of disrespect. That you are a FM is very impressive and puts you in a very small circle of chess players, from a percentage basis. And yes I consider it bogus. I never asked for it, my federation stuck me with it, some 30 years ago. No way to get rid of it. And believe me, I tried. Once a FM, always a FM.

Almost every club I played in/for there were at least 30-40 players over 2100. In my small federation there are probably 2500-3000 over 2100 players (from 25000). I am guessing, I need to look that up later. Not sure. I am not sure where you play that you find 30-40 players above 2100 at every club, but I assure you that is not the case in the US. Please list the clubs that you attend that have such numbers. I would love to see that statement verified.

Where did he say "as a journalist"? Haven't seen it. What post? Go back and read it, if you did not see his point about wanting to be a journalist. He said it in post #18...wow, that was lazy of you.

The last bit about NM vs GM is just incorrect reasoning. How is it incorrect reasoning for me to say that he has a shot at NM bit no shot at GM?

Generally speaking, I like your posts, NobodyReally. You are just way off the mark here, which is unusual for you.

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Easy to become a master if you start at 17.  It's not like you're starting at 37.

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Look I'm involved in like 10 threads at the same time. I'll get back to you tomorrow in this thread. I promise. Going now. I'll also check some numbers I was guessing about. Laters.

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kco wrote:

@glorax, I wonder what colour will it be if he is a NM ?  pink ?

I think it will be soft red

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                  Now he IS an FM.  juggling 10 threads. My limit is about 4.  3 definetely, 4 heh??

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RonaldJosephCote wrote:

                  Now he IS an FM.  juggling 10 threads. My limit is about 4.  3 definetely, 4 heh??

he is holding a converational simul!

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I can get there, right? I am mid-1400s USCF and age 15.