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If you are 400+ lower rated than your opponent, down q queen and rook in material, and defending against a mating attack, there are three reasons you should not offer a draw. If you also have substantially less time on the clock, that is a fourth reason.

It is usually poor manners for the lower rated player to offer a draw.

It is always inappropriate to offer a draw in a lost position.

In seemingly even positions, one player is sometimes pressing for an advantage. Even if correct play will lead to a draw, the one defending should not be the one to make the offer.


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Maybe we should ban draws in the game altogether?πŸ€”

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I assume you mean ban all draw offers, not draws. If my assumption is incorrect, then it's a stale suggestion, mate. Ziryab is just pointing out the courtesies that are normally followed in over the board play and should also be followed online.

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I assume you mean banning all draw offers, not draws themselves.

// Yes, you're right, I meant the draw offer.

It's clear that situations can arise in the game where there's nothing but a draw.πŸ˜…πŸ™ˆ

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where i am (the not so good level) i will receive draw offers sometimes when the opponent probably just wants the game over. when i decline i always write that i'd like to play it out a little longer. that usually means i have a plan to win.

personally, i think too many here are afraid of using the chat function to simply talk with their opponent.

maybe just a sign of the times, but i remember people not hesitating to write or answer.

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Your rating doesn't determine whether a draw offer is appropriate or not, the board position does. The OP is correct about offering draws from a dead lost position and the opponent has plenty of time left; those situations are almost always inappropriate. Offering a draw in a book-drawn position, a positional-draw, or a dead-position, as a general rule, is always appropriate.

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And then there are those who spam draw offers on every turn when in a losing position. That really shouldn't be allowed.

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badger_song wrote:

Your rating doesn't determine whether a draw offer is appropriate or not, the board position does. The OP is correct about offering draws from a dead lost position and the opponent has plenty of time left; those situations are almost always inappropriate. Offering a draw in a book-drawn position, a positional-draw, or a dead-position, as a general rule, is always appropriate.

A FIDE Master with decades of tournament experience was telling me a little over a week ago that a lower rated player should not offer a draw. I said that a lower rated player could do so, if that player had an advantage. He said that was stupid.

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hello

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Ziryab wrote:

A FIDE Master with decades of tournament experience was telling me a little over a week ago that a lower rated player should not offer a draw.

Possibly too many decades. The guy doesn't seem to make too much sense.