Anand Vs Carlsen anther draw ???

fabelhaft wrote:

Maybe some people weren't meant to be interested in chess :-)

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There's pressure on them to perform 'entertaining' chess, and they both have an aversion to making bad moves. Bad moves will make for entertaining chess, but we're not going to see many such moves from either of these guys. This second game had the possibility of a risky trajectory around move 13, and Anand decided to not go there and exchange queens instead. Once that was done there was little risk left on the board. 

Now I'm not saying that exciting chess only comes from bad moves; not at all. But these guys know their openings, and they know risk management, and that's what we've seen so far. Personally, I find it fascinating; I find the careful risk management fascinating, and I find the bloodlust of the fans fascinating. so its all a win win for me 

Very well said!!

Here are openings Fischer - Spassky (1972) openings : Sicilian, Nimzo Indian, Benoni, QGD, English, Ruy Lopez, Alekhine, Pirc.

I bet Carlsen nor Anand will play one of these. Well, they will play Ruy Lopez, but Alekhine? Do they dare?

In fact, Fischer played Alekhine twice in WC. Want to know the result? Won on move 74 , and draw on move 40.

What did Carlsen and Anand play? 16 and 25 moves of Rubbish.

I just played two games of rubbish. I'll be posting them soon to get help in playing less rubbish. 

Name one world chess championship you've seen all the games.

Ok, even just the first 2 or 3 games.

Oh this is the only one?  No, that doesn't surprise me.

Exactly. At this level, every game they play is more likely than not to be a draw.

maybe your forgeting that Anand Gelfand Had only 2 decicive games. 10 draws. This is nothing new

Listen up. if carlsen or Anand wins ONE game. Yes one game. The rest will be exciting as could be. if Carlsen wins, he will try to draw the rest. You people have to understand that there is 1.2 million dollars at stake

Well have you seen any other chess championship recently? i don't think so.

no it isn't. Go whining to Anand and Carlsen. they couldn't care less.

Carlsen does not seem prepared.  It seems like he is trying to play basic openings that Anand probably did not work on too hard and hope for the best.  Anand is ready but not taking chances by gambling on the small edges he is getting.  Both players seem to be looking for just one game.  Anand is looking for the one game when the edge Carlsen's subpar opening gives him is enough to win.  Carlsen is looking for the game when he can get out of the opening with possibilites for a long complex fight.  It may be that Carlsen did not announce his seconds because he did not do much in the way of special preparation for this match.

Nice spoiler

*fingers crossed* this ends with 12 draws. That would be funny.

oh my! So perhaps the top player in the world, or certainly one of the top players in the world, is going into a world championship match without much special preparation. Impossible. He is prepared to the gills. Draws like this happen because of great preparation. This is what 'well-prepared' chess likely looks like. If you want to see 'unprepared chess' take a look at some of my posted games. I need help badly. I am having trouble holding on to a 1000 rating. My games are completely unprepared. Help! Please comment on my games and criticize the hell out of me! Just leave anand and Carlsen alone! Those guys KNOW what they're doing!

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Well he dictated simple positions that gave his opponent an edge and had to take a draw twice to defend.  He is not exactly creating new theory here.  And his choice of openings seems to be avoiding where Anand's opening prep is likely to be.  We will see if he transitions to sharper positions later or shows us something new and interesting.

This.  

I want the players to play the absolute chess moves they can.  I do not want them to stoop so that some in the audience feel "entertained."  

If you can't handle the fact that often games between very good players end in draws then chess is not for you.  

guys Carlsen has broken Kasparov highest chess rating ever !!!! 

yes am new to chess 

but Carlsen is 2870 rating player !!!!! top player ever .... 

really i expected him to win as white .....

and to the peaple who think that other wcc also started with 2 draws it was no 16 moves !!!!! 

Last I checked the Caro-Kann wasn't a forced draw in 20... And according to the analysis the game was dead after Qd5 because Qg4 wouldn't either lose a pawn or Carlsen would lock the game. I guess Petrosian was just lucky to win all his games. Otherwise maybe Anand should start playing this line in the Caro-Kann and make life easy for himself. The positions will surely be too "dangerous" for Carlsen to do anything with and he'll never be able to win.... Chess is solved in the Caro-Kann I guess... If you're not winning in 15 moves then it's time to pack it in. 

Kramnik drew against Kasparov repeatedly in their match in 2000 and there were no complaints because the players were actually trying to win. Here they seem to be reluctant to do anything at all. But again I blame the format.

You don't know what you are talking about. In game 1 Carlsen avoided absolutely all theory, and game 2 had quite a bit of 'playing' chess in it too. Anand needs to stop equalizing positions where he has chances to play for an advantage (no matter how small the advantage is), as he did in the first game with Nd5 (forces a draw) and in the second game with Qxd5 (enters an equal ending).