Any gambits that sacrifice a knight or bishop, or more?

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PawnAvalanche08 wrote:

btw @pfren, I play more blitz and bullet than you do, so I know what moves can throw your opponents off track. Playing d4 sets a trap of Black taking on e4. I've won countless games, maybe 100, where black, not knowing what to do, carelessly takes on e4. 

So you're bragging that your low quality moves beat unprepared and weak opponents?

"Weird flex"

Deranged

The most insane gambit I know of is the Nakhmanson Gambit.

But the only serious gambit I actually play myself in real tournament games is the Muzio gambit (King's Gambit but sacrifice the knight on f3 for rapid development and control of the centre).

pfren
PawnAvalanche08 έγραψε:

btw @pfren, I play more blitz and bullet than you do, so I know what moves can throw your opponents off track. Playing d4 sets a trap of Black taking on e4. I've won countless games, maybe 100, where black, not knowing what to do, carelessly takes on e4. 

 

If you don't want to listen (and this applies for any illiterate kid, not just your majesty) then I can assure you that I won't cry.

GrandMasterNoob21
PawnAvalanche08 wrote:

btw @pfren, I play more blitz and bullet than you do, so I know what moves can throw your opponents off track. Playing d4 sets a trap of Black taking on e4. I've won countless games, maybe 100, where black, not knowing what to do, carelessly takes on e4. 

you challenging an IM

GrandMasterNoob21

You might be higher rated than him in blitz but he know smore

jamesstack
pfren wrote:
jamesstack έγραψε:
pfren wrote:
PawnAvalanche08 έγραψε:

The Cochrane Gambit: (I always play this opening LOL)

 

 

5.d4 is not good, Black gets a clear advantage.

White's only viable move is 5.Nc3!

How does black get a clear advantage after 5. d4? Its my understanding white is just a pawn up after 5...Nxe4 6. Qh5+ since it doesnt seem possible to defend the knight. Or is it some other move(besides 5..Nxe4) that would give black the advantage?

 

The point behind 5.Nc3! is not protecting the e4 pawn, but rather preventing ...d5 by Black.

5.d4 c5! 6.dxc5 d5! 7.e5 Ng4 is complex, but it has been thoroughly analysed as  clear advantage for Black- actually in chess practice white doesn't even score 15% from here.

5.Nc3! prevents Black from deconstructing white's pride (which is his massive center). It gives Black some extra options, but IMO white has adequatre, or almost adequate compensation in all the major lines. It is no coincidence that WC Topalov picked 5.Nc3 at his encounter against WC Kramnik (the game ended in a draw after a very interesting fight).

After 7. e5 it is clear black has an advantage but does white have to play 7. e5? What about 7. Pxd5 where if black takes the pawn with the queen and queens are exchanged an endgame is reached where white has 3 pawns for the knight...seems like it should be about equal.

pfren
jamesstack έγραψε:
pfren wrote:
jamesstack έγραψε:
pfren wrote:
PawnAvalanche08 έγραψε:

The Cochrane Gambit: (I always play this opening LOL)

 

 

5.d4 is not good, Black gets a clear advantage.

White's only viable move is 5.Nc3!

How does black get a clear advantage after 5. d4? Its my understanding white is just a pawn up after 5...Nxe4 6. Qh5+ since it doesnt seem possible to defend the knight. Or is it some other move(besides 5..Nxe4) that would give black the advantage?

 

The point behind 5.Nc3! is not protecting the e4 pawn, but rather preventing ...d5 by Black.

5.d4 c5! 6.dxc5 d5! 7.e5 Ng4 is complex, but it has been thoroughly analysed as  clear advantage for Black- actually in chess practice white doesn't even score 15% from here.

5.Nc3! prevents Black from deconstructing white's pride (which is his massive center). It gives Black some extra options, but IMO white has adequatre, or almost adequate compensation in all the major lines. It is no coincidence that WC Topalov picked 5.Nc3 at his encounter against WC Kramnik (the game ended in a draw after a very interesting fight).

After 7. e5 it is clear black has an advantage but does white have to play 7. e5? What about 7. Pxd5 where if black takes the pawn with the queen and queens are exchanged an endgame is reached where white has 3 pawns for the knight...seems like it should be about equal.

 

7.exd5? Bxc5 plus ...Re8+ is already resignable.

jamesstack
pfren wrote:
jamesstack έγραψε:
pfren wrote:
jamesstack έγραψε:
pfren wrote:
PawnAvalanche08 έγραψε:

The Cochrane Gambit: (I always play this opening LOL)

 

 

5.d4 is not good, Black gets a clear advantage.

White's only viable move is 5.Nc3!

How does black get a clear advantage after 5. d4? Its my understanding white is just a pawn up after 5...Nxe4 6. Qh5+ since it doesnt seem possible to defend the knight. Or is it some other move(besides 5..Nxe4) that would give black the advantage?

 

The point behind 5.Nc3! is not protecting the e4 pawn, but rather preventing ...d5 by Black.

5.d4 c5! 6.dxc5 d5! 7.e5 Ng4 is complex, but it has been thoroughly analysed as  clear advantage for Black- actually in chess practice white doesn't even score 15% from here.

5.Nc3! prevents Black from deconstructing white's pride (which is his massive center). It gives Black some extra options, but IMO white has adequatre, or almost adequate compensation in all the major lines. It is no coincidence that WC Topalov picked 5.Nc3 at his encounter against WC Kramnik (the game ended in a draw after a very interesting fight).

After 7. e5 it is clear black has an advantage but does white have to play 7. e5? What about 7. Pxd5 where if black takes the pawn with the queen and queens are exchanged an endgame is reached where white has 3 pawns for the knight...seems like it should be about equal.

 

7.exd5? Bxc5 plus ...Re8+ is already resignable.

Okay thanks...forgot that black can take on c5 right away.

chesuphobia

There is now the alien gambit that is blowing up right now.

Chess_Player_lol
drdos7

The dubious Rice Gambit:

User49578

It's not a famous thing, something I made up:

I like to sac. a minor piece on the g and h pawns. (by first, provoking the h pawn to move: h2-h3), there's a limit to a human's defensive ability, they will crack at some point I assume.

NyanUnderHell

Triple muzio gambit.