Approaching a new chess gathering
Hey Brian,
I have visited clubs in many areas of the country, for example, SC, NC, AZ, PA, IN, GA, KS, NJ, KY, and GA. Chess players typically aren't that great in the area of social skills. They often ignore visitors, so it can be intimidating just from that standpoint. Just play whomever you can get a game with and don't worry about losing, even losing badly. Ask questions, and most stronger players will help you once they see that you are genuinely interested in the game. A friend of mine, who once beat Bobby Fischer, tells beginners at our club that ask for advice that they should be prepared to lose a thousand games before they get good. Perhaps an exaggeration, but you get the idea. Good luck to you.
In chess,
-David
This is EXACTLY why i never go to starbucks. Everyone there is an incosiderate, pompous douche that wears turtle neck sweaters, square glasses, pronounces every variety of coffee in Italian, and either has a MacBook or ipod on them.
Starbucks is not a place to "hangout", it's a fast food venue like any other. Yet people there INSIST on doing their "work (often by just spending hours sitting in the most comfortable sofa with their MAcbooks), or gather in there too read books for HOURS or play chess. You people make me sick and I swear if I was a Starbucks manager I would chase you all out with a broom the same way you chase a stray cat away from your house. How dare you.
Paying constumers like myself have nowhere to sit and enjoy a drink because a-holes like your chess club buddies clog ALL the freaking chairs and spend hours playing, at the expence of others. Go play on a park, in a library, or in someone else's house. DO NOT JUST pick a random restaurtant to hog. IF you are not eating or drinking, GET OUT.
Wow!
"...and I swear if I was a Starbucks manager " that the thing is, you are not the manager, so is not your problem.
(a bunch of stupid shit)
I don't like Starbucks, so I don't go there, but you are way, way offbase. You talk about how if it were your business, you would chase all those people off? Those idiots who hang out for hours drinking $8 coffee and such are how they make money. It's because of those people that Starbucks is such a successful, profitable franchise with a store on every other corner.
Do I want to go hang out there? No, not a chance.
But do I get my panties in a wad because they have a successful business model? No, I don't.
chessguitar,
Would you be bothered if I used your statement to support another topic that I am in the midst of discussing? I have a few questions to ask you which are involved in my research, before I do so. Let me know if you are willing to participate.
I've had similar experiences at Chess clubs, whether they meet in Starbucks or in libraries.
I've been a big advocate of low cost, low pressure, almost "casual" tournaments. Some people have often told me that what I'm really looking for is "club" chess instead of "tournament" chess. They don't understand that part of what I want to accomplish is precisely avoiding the sort of experience from the OP, which are all too common. The tournament format creates a structure that avoids the awkward experience described above. It's not the only reason I prefer tournaments to clubs, but it's in the top three.
What makes a huge difference in the newcomers' quality of experience in a Chess club is the presence of just one person in the club who has a clue and a few social skills, who sees someone he doesn't recognize, and is willing to introduce himself to the newcomers and greet them.
I feel like eating some waffles for breakfast, who wants to make me some?

I've observed and experienced numerous types of baggage in my life, from sexual issues to my-ex-tried-to-knife-me, but chess baggage ... and the style with which you put it out there ... I think I'm in love.
