btw “tactical precision” just pointing that out 
Are chess players athletes? 💨
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May 7, 2022
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#103
technical_knockout wrote:
the primary characteristic of a 'sport' is an element of competition:
this thread isn't about luck vs. skill lol.
It’s not about chess as a sport, either. It is, but that doesn’t make chess players athletes.
May 7, 2022
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#104
Optimissed wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
technical_knockout wrote:
the primary characteristic of a 'sport' is an element of competition:
this thread isn't about luck vs. skill lol.
It’s not about chess as a sport, either. It is, but that doesn’t make chess players athletes.
No, I can now prove chess isn't a sport. In all sports, you have to be able to get your feet wet and there has to be luck involved. In chess, you don't normally get your feet wet. Therefore it can never be considered a sport.
I think we’ve shown there is luck in chess.
As for the wet feet, I offer two images: Larry Evans and Bobby Fischer playing chess on a floating chess board in a swimming pool, and the rainstorm in Searching for Bobby Fischer.
There was also about a cup of water spilled at the Washington State Elementary Chess Championship last Saturday. One kid running across the mess almost lost an eye (a key sports criterion in another thread) as I waited for the custodian whom I sought and found to arrive with a towel.
who thinks what what now?
luck definitely does not exist in chess
May 7, 2022
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#106
CooloutAC wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
technical_knockout wrote:
the primary characteristic of a 'sport' is an element of competition:
this thread isn't about luck vs. skill lol.
It’s not about chess as a sport, either. It is, but that doesn’t make chess players athletes.
No, I can now prove chess isn't a sport. In all sports, you have to be able to get your feet wet and there has to be luck involved. In chess, you don't normally get your feet wet. Therefore it can never be considered a sport.
I think we’ve shown there is luck in chess.
As for the wet feet, I offer two images: Larry Evans and Bobby Fischer playing chess on a floating chess board in a swimming pool, and the rainstorm in Searching for Bobby Fischer.
There was also about a cup of water spilled at the Washington State Elementary Chess Championship last Saturday. One kid running across the mess almost lost an eye (a key sports criterion in another thread) as I waited for the custodian whom I sought and found to arrive with a towel.
You have shown no such thing lmao. And again, if there was luck in chess it would not be considered a sport. But lets add this to the list of reasons why you desperately try to prove there is luck in chess. So now besides you thinking low rated players only win by luck, that society doesn't play chess cause its hard too understand, that skill is based on accuracy, that speed chess is not real chess compared to classical, and whatever else I forgot....You also feel chess players are not athletes.
I don't know what your dusty and outdated oxford dictionary is telling you. But again, an athlete is simply someone who competes in sports. Exercised skill, whether with both the mind and body, or in the physical or digital realm, is exercised skill.
But lets face it, you will never admit this because that would be admitting that speed chess is more sporting then classical chess, because exercised skill is more of a factor.
I played 110 bullet games yesterday and today. The absence of skill by all but three of my opponents and me was the dominant factor.
Yes and no
Chess players are athletes in the same way that zebras are horses. They're not.
Say what you want, I couldn't give a toss anymore.
YellowVenom wrote:
Say what you want, I couldn't give a toss anymore.
Then why are you here? If you really didn’t care you wouldn’t be here.
Chess is a sport!
No.
our body even if when we slep got phisecal activity but at a very low level it is not about the burning of the calories it is about moving your selef
May 8, 2022
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#116
CooloutAC wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
CooloutAC wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Ziryab wrote:
technical_knockout wrote:
the primary characteristic of a 'sport' is an element of competition:
this thread isn't about luck vs. skill lol.
It’s not about chess as a sport, either. It is, but that doesn’t make chess players athletes.
No, I can now prove chess isn't a sport. In all sports, you have to be able to get your feet wet and there has to be luck involved. In chess, you don't normally get your feet wet. Therefore it can never be considered a sport.
I think we’ve shown there is luck in chess.
As for the wet feet, I offer two images: Larry Evans and Bobby Fischer playing chess on a floating chess board in a swimming pool, and the rainstorm in Searching for Bobby Fischer.
There was also about a cup of water spilled at the Washington State Elementary Chess Championship last Saturday. One kid running across the mess almost lost an eye (a key sports criterion in another thread) as I waited for the custodian whom I sought and found to arrive with a towel.
You have shown no such thing lmao. And again, if there was luck in chess it would not be considered a sport. But lets add this to the list of reasons why you desperately try to prove there is luck in chess. So now besides you thinking low rated players only win by luck, that society doesn't play chess cause its hard too understand, that skill is based on accuracy, that speed chess is not real chess compared to classical, and whatever else I forgot....You also feel chess players are not athletes.
I don't know what your dusty and outdated oxford dictionary is telling you. But again, an athlete is simply someone who competes in sports. Exercised skill, whether with both the mind and body, or in the physical or digital realm, is exercised skill.
But lets face it, you will never admit this because that would be admitting that speed chess is more sporting then classical chess, because exercised skill is more of a factor.
I played 110 bullet games yesterday and today. The absence of skill by all but three of my opponents and me was the dominant factor.
i have no idea what point you are making. I just got done watching gmcanty and daniel naroditzky playing OTB bullet games live on twitch in charlotte north carolina. Think they are there for a tournament and Danya came to visit., and all the fellas were playing in the hotel after hours. Takes skill just to be able to move those pieces that fast. Some of the guys were in awe of them even though it got sloppy at times. Bullet is literally what most GM's prefer online. Which is what Nepo said he prefers at the world championship press conference. It has the widest skill gap when you look at these online statistics. Far too advanced for me to attempt even trying and not really fan friendly to commentate on but a beauty to watch.
My point is that exercising skill is not at the forefront of this blunderfest. Bullet is a rush. It can be fun; it can be frustrating. The games are often entertaining. My play resembles that of much weaker players with the sort of errors that cause me to pull out what little hair remains atop my noggin.
If you can play it well while holding a beer in one hand, it is not a sport.
May 8, 2022
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#118
landloch wrote:
If you can play it well while holding a beer in one hand, it is not a sport.
Golf?
Fishing?
Darts?
If chess players play an actual sport.....then yes, they can be athletes. If asking if chess is a sport.....then absolutely not
the primary characteristic of a 'sport' is an element of competition:
this thread isn't about luck vs. skill lol.
very good observation.
good observation, he says while being the one to point out in the first place that poker is not a sport because it contains elements of luck
boi