Are we really playing for fun? Or is this mostly a form of escapism?

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torrubirubi

 

We all need a hobby, something that will motivate us to stand up in the morning.

My main hobbies are tennis and chess, although I also like to paint and play guitar.

 

Tennis give me a lot of pleasure, especially if I am playing well. After a close match I will usually be happy for the time I spent playing. I also like to train.

With chess is a little bit different. Of course it is funny to toast a weak player from time to time, but the huge amount of emotional stress I have when facing a stronger player is not always pleasant for me. 

Okay, I am usually not playing against stronger players. I am not playing in a chess club, probably because I have the impression that I will perceive the stress of a playing against a stronger player as something negative. This would be probably different if I would be talented, but I am not. (And I don't like much the idea of sitting for long periods of time).

Why am I then playing and studying chess? There are some superficial reasons that I can mention. I give chess lessons for beginners, so I thing my students will of course profit from chess knowledge (and they will of course respect me more if I am regularly toasting them). I think that chess is also a great think for my brain. I like also to understand what stronger players are doing.

But one very specific reason is perhaps related to escapism. Let's see a Wiki-definition of this word:

"Escapism is the avoidance of unpleasant, boring, arduous, scary, or banal aspects of daily life. It can also be used as a term to define the actions people take to help relieve persisting feelings of depression or general sadness."

I had a kind of burnout  when I finish my PhD in 2015, and around this time I began to train regularly chess. I didn't get much better. But I had the impression I was doing "something": training my English (a lot of great chess books and chess websites are in English) and other languages, using my brain, etc etc. And at least doing something to improve my chess. But I think that the main reason to invest more time in chess was to postpone the decisions about my other projects in life (I was planning to publish a book on popular science). Escapism is perhaps also the reason why I spend a lot of time with training instead of playing - I have definitively less stress when I am training than when I am playing chess.

Do you have similar experiences with chess as escapism? 

 

notmtwain
torrubirubi wrote:

 

We all need a hobby, something that will motivate us to stand up in the morning.

My main hobbies are tennis and chess, although I also like to paint and play guitar.

 

Tennis give me a lot of pleasure, especially if I am playing well. After a close match I will usually be happy for the time I spent playing. I also like to train.

With chess is a little bit different. Of course it is funny to toast a weak player from time to time, but the huge amount of emotional stress I have when facing a stronger player is not always pleasant for me. 

Okay, I am usually not playing against stronger players. I am not playing in a chess club, probably because I have the impression that I will perceive the stress of a playing against a stronger player as something negative. This would be probably different if I would be talented, but I am not. (And I don't like much the idea of sitting for long periods of time).

Why am I then playing and studying chess? There are some superficial reasons that I can mention. I give chess lessons for beginners, so I thing my students will of course profit from chess knowledge (and they will of course respect me more if I am regularly toasting them). I think that chess is also a great think for my brain. I like also to understand what stronger players are doing.

But one very specific reason is perhaps related to escapism. Let's see a Wiki-definition of this word:

"Escapism is the avoidance of unpleasant, boring, arduous, scary, or banal aspects of daily life. It can also be used as a term to define the actions people take to help relieve persisting feelings of depression or general sadness."

I had a kind of burnout  when I finish my PhD in 2015, and around this time I began to train regularly chess. I didn't get much better. But I had the impression I was doing "something": training my English (a lot of great chess books and chess websites are in English) and other languages, using my brain, etc etc. And at least doing something to improve my chess. But I think that the main reason to invest more time in chess was to postpone the decisions about my other projects in life (I was planning to publish a book on popular science). Escapism is perhaps also the reason why I spend a lot of time with training instead of playing - I have definitively less stress when I am training than when I am playing chess.

Do you have similar experiences with chess as escapism? 

 

Momo36
I am playing for fun for a long time, never take it seriously... that’s why I am forever beginner haha 😂

for some people, chess is their life... for me, just another new kind of hobbies besides of skiing, piano... cooking... there are many things in life to focus on... btw Grüezi :)
torrubirubi
Momo36 wrote:
I am playing for fun for a long time, never take it seriously... that’s why I am forever beginner haha 😂

for some people, chess is their life... for me, just another new kind of hobbies besides of skiing, piano... cooking... there are many things in life to focus on... btw Grüezi :)

Probably it is better like this, playing without much ambition but having a lot of fun!

Momo36
Don't we have enough stress in our daily life? Hobby is supposed to be something you do to make your feel relax and have fun...not bring more stress, well that is just another opinion from someone like me who has many things to do in life including traveling and spending quality time with loved ones as well.

AryamaanChess
torrubirubi wrote:

 

We all need a hobby, something that will motivate us to stand up in the morning.

My main hobbies are tennis and chess, although I also like to paint and play guitar.

 

Tennis give me a lot of pleasure, especially if I am playing well. After a close match I will usually be happy for the time I spent playing. I also like to train.

With chess is a little bit different. Of course it is funny to toast a weak player from time to time, but the huge amount of emotional stress I have when facing a stronger player is not always pleasant for me. 

Okay, I am usually not playing against stronger players. I am not playing in a chess club, probably because I have the impression that I will perceive the stress of a playing against a stronger player as something negative. This would be probably different if I would be talented, but I am not. (And I don't like much the idea of sitting for long periods of time).

Why am I then playing and studying chess? There are some superficial reasons that I can mention. I give chess lessons for beginners, so I thing my students will of course profit from chess knowledge (and they will of course respect me more if I am regularly toasting them). I think that chess is also a great think for my brain. I like also to understand what stronger players are doing.

But one very specific reason is perhaps related to escapism. Let's see a Wiki-definition of this word:

"Escapism is the avoidance of unpleasant, boring, arduous, scary, or banal aspects of daily life. It can also be used as a term to define the actions people take to help relieve persisting feelings of depression or general sadness."

I had a kind of burnout  when I finish my PhD in 2015, and around this time I began to train regularly chess. I didn't get much better. But I had the impression I was doing "something": training my English (a lot of great chess books and chess websites are in English) and other languages, using my brain, etc etc. And at least doing something to improve my chess. But I think that the main reason to invest more time in chess was to postpone the decisions about my other projects in life (I was planning to publish a book on popular science). Escapism is perhaps also the reason why I spend a lot of time with training instead of playing - I have definitively less stress when I am training than when I am playing chess.

Do you have similar experiences with chess as escapism? 

 

Bloody hell! My bestie also likes to play tennis and chess. He also loves Switzerland because Federer is from that country

torrubirubi

I feel great after winning, but not so much after I blunder and my opponent blunders back. However, an interesting game which ends with a draw is also not bad.

Dum_S

Momo36 wrote:

I am playing for fun for a long time, never take it seriously... that’s why I am forever beginner haha 😂

for some people, chess is their life... for me, just another new kind of hobbies besides of skiing, piano... cooking... there are many things in life to focus on... btw Grüezi :)

no you've improved , last time i saw your rating was 760 now its 780 you surely have improved alot

Dum_S

torrubirubi wrote:

 

We all need a hobby, something that will motivate us to stand up in the morning.

My main hobbies are tennis and chess, although I also like to paint and play guitar.

 

Tennis give me a lot of pleasure, especially if I am playing well. After a close match I will usually be happy for the time I spent playing. I also like to train.

With chess is a little bit different. Of course it is funny to toast a weak player from time to time, but the huge amount of emotional stress I have when facing a stronger player is not always pleasant for me. 

Okay, I am usually not playing against stronger players. I am not playing in a chess club, probably because I have the impression that I will perceive the stress of a playing against a stronger player as something negative. This would be probably different if I would be talented, but I am not. (And I don't like much the idea of sitting for long periods of time).

Why am I then playing and studying chess? There are some superficial reasons that I can mention. I give chess lessons for beginners, so I thing my students will of course profit from chess knowledge (and they will of course respect me more if I am regularly toasting them). I think that chess is also a great think for my brain. I like also to understand what stronger players are doing.

But one very specific reason is perhaps related to escapism. Let's see a Wiki-definition of this word:

"Escapism is the avoidance of unpleasant, boring, arduous, scary, or banal aspects of daily life. It can also be used as a term to define the actions people take to help relieve persisting feelings of depression or general sadness."

I had a kind of burnout  when I finish my PhD in 2015, and around this time I began to train regularly chess. I didn't get much better. But I had the impression I was doing "something": training my English (a lot of great chess books and chess websites are in English) and other languages, using my brain, etc etc. And at least doing something to improve my chess. But I think that the main reason to invest more time in chess was to postpone the decisions about my other projects in life (I was planning to publish a book on popular science). Escapism is perhaps also the reason why I spend a lot of time with training instead of playing - I have definitively less stress when I am training than when I am playing chess.

Do you have similar experiences with chess as escapism? 

 

@torrubirubi there was no need of Wikipedia links 😂 We all know meaning of everyday life

PICKYOURPOCKET

This is crazy!  Just read my bio.

IMKeto

When i first got into chess, i like many thought it was life and death.  My ego was tied to my rating, performance at tournaments, prize money, etc.  I finally found out i was miserable playing like that, and the reality of knowing i was never going to be good at the game.  Now i study/play purely for fun.  I have a love for teaching the game, and that is where my passion lies.  

drmrboss

Yes, I do play for fun with 2k noobs! With my age and with my rating, it is enough for me.

Pulpofeira

Flow.

MickinMD

I have stress both when competing against a better player in tennis, basketball, etc. as I do with chess.

I used to get very stressed in rated chess games, but I've reached the point where I'm looking to have fun with it, win or lose - though it helps I win a little more than I lose.  For example, I do much better with 1 e4 than 1 d4, but it's fun to explore the possibilities with the London Attack, etc.  I haven't been one to sacrifice a pawn early for an attack but I'm thinking of trying the Smith-Morra Gambit against the Sicilian or open with the King's Gambit because, like the London, it will be fun to do!

torrubirubi
MickinMD wrote:

I have stress both when competing against a better player in tennis, basketball, etc. as I do with chess.

I used to get very stressed in rated chess games, but I've reached the point where I'm looking to have fun with it, win or lose - though it helps I win a little more than I lose.  For example, I do much better with 1 e4 than 1 d4, but it's fun to explore the possibilities with the London Attack, etc.  I haven't been one to sacrifice a pawn early for an attack but I'm thinking of trying the Smith-Morra Gambit against the Sicilian or open with the King's Gambit because, like the London, it will be fun to do!

Your are right. Trying new openings makes easier to have fun, as you don't expect much from these games.

AntonioEsfandiari

if you are using chess as purely an entertainment or social device with no intention to improve, do what is most fun for you and forget about all results and ratings. BUT if you want to use chess as a serious hobby of discipline that will provide long-term psychological benefits, then you might want to find a real life chess mentor to guide you and help you with a study plan (any strong player from your local chess club or meetup group will do)

AntonioEsfandiari

a lot of hobbies are a manifestation of escapism though aren't they? I think I use it as an escapsim hobby that also helps my confidence by achieving tangible results through hard work.

AntonioEsfandiari

if you can't embrace losses as a device to learn, then EGO is probably your roadblock. Chess is difficult psychologically because you typically are learning at peak rates when you are losing to a player who is a bit better than you, just enough that they can clearly exploit your weaknesses but they are not a mysterious unbeatable god to you . And if all you do is play weaker players, maybe this gives you a short term feeling of confidence or joy to dominate another human, but in the end it will backfire as you will look at your slow progress and realize the time you have wasted.

SeniorPatzer

It's quite fun to beat players who study more than you do and who take chess very seriously.  

 

That's okay, right?

Pawn355

fun and escapism

fun escapism

escapist fun

fun