Are we really playing for fun? Or is this mostly a form of escapism?

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SeniorPatzer wrote:

It's quite fun to beat players who study more than you do and who take chess very seriously.  

 

That's okay, right?

I don't know about okay but it is an indicator you are a sadist. sadists are typically very jaded and miserable people who have given up on coexisting in a healthy way with other humans

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That won't be very usual, anyway.

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AntonioEsfandiari wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:

It's quite fun to beat players who study more than you do and who take chess very seriously.  

 

That's okay, right?

I don't know about okay but it is an indicator you are a sadist. sadists are typically very jaded and miserable people who have given up on coexisting in a healthy way with other humans

 

Employing such linguistic violence reveals the latent sadism bubbling within.

 

Bad and sad.

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For those of us who are getting a bit older ( in mid-60s for me ) Chess can play a very important role in keeping the old brain working. When I play my little 30 minute games on-line it is like going on a short power-walk for the mind.      

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sorry, I wasn't trying to offend, but your comment seemed sadistic so I didn't want to beat around the bush with indirect language . yes you are calling me out haha, I am not without sin, I have at times been very sadistic in my life but in reflection I think it was because I was in general unhappy. if you are a happy person who loves others you will typically derive more pleasure from helping others than hurting them.

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badenwurtca wrote:

For those of us who are getting a bit older ( in mid-60s for me ) Chess can play a very important role in keeping the old brain working. When I play my little 30 minute games on-line it is like going on a short power-walk for the mind.      

good stuff! I've heard there is evidence that dimentia and Alzheimer's are less common with active chess players.

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AntonioEsfandiari wrote:

if you can't embrace losses as a device to learn, then EGO is probably your roadblock. Chess is difficult psychologically because you typically are learning at peak rates when you are losing to a player who is a bit better than you, just enough that they can clearly exploit your weaknesses but they are not a mysterious unbeatable god to you . And if all you do is play weaker players, maybe this gives you a short term feeling of confidence or joy to dominate another human, but in the end it will backfire as you will look at your slow progress and realize the time you have wasted.

I play  weaker players because the people who regularly play with me are weak.  The same in tennis.  Most of my friends are weaker than me.  I guess I would get much better playing against stronger players in a club OTB,  but I have to decide what is relevant in my life. Between tennis and chess I will always take tennis. 

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Mostly ego, perhaps?

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Mostly ego, perhaps?

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Mostly ego, perhaps?

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Neither. I don't play for fun or for escapism. I play for meaning. 

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I'm in the same spot, honestly. You said you have 2 main hobbies: tennis and chess, and I also have 2 main hobbies: math and chess. I suck at math and it gives me anxiety and frustration not to be good at math, but I suck less at chess, therefore I use chess as a superficial way to fill this void. You said your true passion is tennis (not chess), and, well, my true passion is math (not chess); and yet I practice chess instead of practicing math.

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Pawn355 wrote:

fun and escapism

fun escapism

escapist fun

fun

Poetic Mastapiece

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I also have two hobbies, Music (Piano) and Chess. Like you with tennis, I know deep down that music is my main passion. I often find myself conflicted about spending time on chess for that reason and wonder whether it would be better to have one hobby to focus on as time is precious.

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AntonioEsfandiari wrote:

sorry, I wasn't trying to offend, but your comment seemed sadistic so I didn't want to beat around the bush with indirect language . yes you are calling me out haha, I am not without sin, I have at times been very sadistic in my life but in reflection I think it was because I was in general unhappy. if you are a happy person who loves others you will typically derive more pleasure from helping others than hurting them.

I have come to the conclusion and have accepted that I enjoy picking pockets.  It makes me happy.

I do it out of love.

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common man rating doesn't matter so don't afraid to loose .

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cyberwarior wrote:

common man rating doesn't matter so don't BE afraid to lose .

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Sometimes after a really intense game, win or lose, I notice that my armpits have developed that stress sweat smell. Not the physical exertion sweat smell but the stress sweat smell. Perhaps the stress is part of the appeal?
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P.S. I have never heard of mathematics as a hobby. Good on you.