Auto-vacation is cheating

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ARKelly1996

I wouldn't include training of any sort as "directly affecting" a game in the sense that I intend. Obviously it affects the game, but not during the game. It's an external element of preparation, not a mechanic of play. I thought the opening explorer was odd when I first learned about it as well, but it makes some sense. You may be reading a chess book during a correspondence game and come across something that benefits you. There's nothing really wrong with seeking out information that is particularly relevant to your current position, provided that both players have agreed to it. Of course, on chess.com, for many players, that agreement is made simply by playing a daily game on the site. 

glamdring27

In the old pre-internet days people would often have to pay for chess books to read during correspondence games.  I doubt there were all that many people who played them who complained that their richer opponent had an unfair advantage through being able to buy more chess books to help them with their game.

An occasional auto-vacation mode would only allow a player to play any better if they were actually using all that time studying their positions.  Maybe there are a tiny handful of players on the site so dedicated to winning by unfair means as to do that, but for the vast majority the only direct effect it has on the game is that an opponent doesn't time out.  Personally I don't want my opponent to time out of a Daily game any more than I want to myself.  Winning on time is for live Blitz/Bullet games.

People who pay to support a site (whether it is voluntary or not) obviously expect to get something in return though, and among the various perks that paid membership gives auto-vacation is just a minor add-on that is 'nice to have'.  And I very much doubt that the money from paid memberships is spent only on adding or expanding features that only paid members have access to.

As far as the amount of vacation mode is concerned, certainly I have no defense of that.  Anything above 30 days is totally unnecessary, paid or not.

glamdring27

Btw, whilst there doesn't appear to be a setting to turn off your own auto-vacation (though if you really wish you can resign all your games in which you would have run out of time if you find yourself having used it when you'd rather not), there is an option to not claim a win automatically when your opponent runs out of time, so if you want fairness in your games, as a premium member, you can select that.

ARKelly1996
glamdring27 wrote:

Personally I don't want my opponent to time out of a Daily game any more than I want to myself.  Winning on time is for live Blitz/Bullet games.

I totally agree. I actually changed the setting to not auto-claim victory just recently. I've had a few daily games where I was really disappointed to either win or lose on time.

ARKelly1996
KnuppelBerry wrote:

I put my daily games on vacation for a couple of days when we had to evacuate for a hurricane.

Subtle flex about living on the coast. tongue.png

glamdring27

Sure, it's in line with rules, but it has much more effect on a game than auto-vacation ever would.  I don't know what percentage of people make use of the opening database, but I doubt it is a majority.  Obviously we all could just effectively have other people make our moves for us, which is what an opening database is, but plenty of people prefer to play their own game instead, including their own mistakes.  I've had plenty of Daily games where I get in a mess in the opening that would obviously have been avoided had I just copied moves from a database instead.

An occasional auto-vacation mode simply allows me to not have my life ruled by chess games, whilst still being able to have them there rather than simply resign them all just because I have other things going on.  I'd be interested to see if anyone can confirm whether non-premium players can't select vacation mode while they have a game where it is their move though as that would be the most stupid rule on the whole site.  Some opponents make moves in Daily chess as though it were live chess so you'd theoretically either have to play a whole game out at live speed or play your move and hit the vacation mode button as fast as possible.  Either way it sounds totally implausible and I see nothing in the Help that says this (though it does seem hard to find information sometimes in the help)

ThrillerFan
dfgh123 wrote:

GAME OVER

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LOL!  Good one!