Bad etiquette in bullet

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Chess4001

When your opponent has 1-2 seconds left on the clock, is it bad to just throw pieces wildly to put your opponent in check?

notmtwain

 Of course not. It's bullet.

Ziryab

Rating is the only ethic in bullet. Well, that and the adrenaline rush. Bullet chess is the meth of the chess world.

najdorf96

Heh. Indeed if you have to ask that kind of question then obviously you're having guilt issues about regularly doing it.

I already have a low opinion about bullet games generally, but geez. I think that's just a part of playing that form of Chess. Imagine if Carlsen ever got himself into that situation playing against you, don't let anyone tell you that they wouldn't do the same thing. Puleez.

Ziryab

Carlsen played nearly fifty moves of rook and bishop against rook. That's almost the same thing. This was last week.

ChessOfPlayer

Bullet is about winning on time. If your opponent is low on time it makes sense to me to sac your pieces for that few extra seconds. It is bullet chess. You signed up for it.

ChessOfPlayer

Well I see bullet and blitz as a chess variant. Seeing the complications and dynamics of a position is mostly it (and what what everyone sees as the good part). However the nature of bullet has games get very sloppy in the end due to time scramble. Why time scramble? Why not play better moves? No time to think and if you lose by the clock you lose the game. You took to long. Now sacing a few pieces at the end with check wins time and wins bullet chess. I do get really frustrated and deem it as bad ethics myself but it wins the game. What you aim to loose?

DjonniDerevnja

To me bullet is rehearsing speed.

The faster will win. If he moves faster, then he deserves it.

Drawgood
Yea, nothing wrong with that. Also I'd add that bullet chess is almost not real "chess" because it its whole goal changes the essence of the game. I think it's fun but it's also mockery of chess.
DjonniDerevnja
najdorf96 wrote:

Heh. Indeed if you have to ask that kind of question then obviously you're having guilt issues about regularly doing it.

I already have a low opinion about bullet games generally, but geez. I think that's just a part of playing that form of Chess. Imagine if Carlsen ever got himself into that situation playing against you, don't let anyone tell you that they wouldn't do the same thing. Puleez.

Carlsen is maybe the fastest topqualityplayer in the world. He can positionally outplay everyone and win a 80 move endgame in a few seconds.

klimski

I am awful at fast chess and take my hat off to those who can do it! Even if that's winning on time. It is a different breed from nirmal chess though..

ChessOfPlayer

Then dont play it hoping to get a respectable game where calculating better wins every time. Bullet chess does not merit the humble.

DjonniDerevnja
Drawgood wrote:
Yea, nothing wrong with that. Also I'd add that bullet chess is almost not real "chess" because it its whole goal changes the essence of the game. I think it's fun but it's also mockery of chess.

I actually plays real chess in bullet 2/1 and have some good moves now and then, but lose maybe 80% on time and blunders.In my best games I rehearses some opening lines.

denner

ANOTHER thread with players complaining that they don't like the way their opponent plays bullet chess. Really people? If you don't understand that using the clock to win or draw in a 1 minute game is a tactic just like perpetual check or 3 move repetition is in turtlechess then you should not play it. There is NO nobility to chess. It is a game. Play to win or you will lose. If I took .3 seconds less time to make my moves than you did, guess what? by the rules of the contest YOU and I agreed to at the start, you lose. Enough of this "it's not fair or that's cheap or that's not how chess is supposed to be played" It just makes you look like a whiner, which you probably are.

aln67

"I happen to like to play "fast" chess."

Not taking the clock in account while playing a fast game means you have a serious problem with logics.


aln67

"You can get a higher rating by being a time player"

Not 100% true, since there are different ratings for the different time settings.


glamdring27

There's no such thing as etiquette in bullet chess.  There's no such thing as etiquette in any chess apart from for the weak-minded and easily offendible.  Chess is just chess.  You agree a time control, you have an opponent, you both know (or should know) the full rules of chess and you get on with it.

People who do nothing but move fast in bullet chess lose a lot.  People who try to play their immortal game in bullet chess lose a lot.  Good bullet chess players try to play good pragmatic chess as fast as they can, but if or when that fails and you just have a time scramble then you just play pragmatic moves fast and aim to avoid running out of time and have your opponent run out instead.

People who play bullet chess expecting some sort of awesome game of chess to be played and for their opponent to resign if they are a pawn down but you only have 1 second to complete the 30 moves it would take you to prove the victory really need to get a reality check and play a time control more suitable to their aims.

Jenium
Robert_Moody wrote:

Yeah.  It shows disrespect for the idea of the "noble game".  It shows that you really do not care much for the game of chess part of it.

Playing bullet itself shows disrespect for the game.

glamdring27

To be fair a lot of people's slow chess could be seem as showing disrespect to the game too!

Ziryab

Pragmatism, not purity. That's a good point.

 

The best bullet players play the board with an eye on the clock. They know when a reckless queen sac for check is appropriate. But they can also checkmate you quickly when the opportunity is there.