Been Stuck At 700 For A Decade - Tips To Improve?

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RussBell
wheelsofconfusion wrote:

This thread has been a pleasure to watch read and grow.

i have started a few new multiple days per move games and am going through one by one, all my old games.

i am focusing quite simply on making sure all my pieces are defended and if not finding ways to defend them. Then checking if my opponent has undefended pieces and seeing if there are realistic ways to get those pieces.

 

trying to castle as early as possible again. For some Reason I had been putting off castling until I absolutely felt I had to which many times cost me the ability to castle.

then checking which pieces of mine still need to be developed. I am trying to be very thorough, systematic; careful, and not rushed in  every individual game. Caution. Check and recheck.

i may not rematch them all when they end either.

As the philosopher Thoreau said, “Simplify, simplify.”

I think it is time to start fresh.

cut myself down to a very few games that I can focus intently on.

You're on the right track!

KruChris

OP, you enjoying youself, that's key. What kind of games ae you playing? Blitz, daily, ...? 

 

I'm useless at 3 minutes' Blit and  keep getting mated in a few moves. // I would suggest, you stick to an opening at a time, like d4 / c5

RussBell
darwinwasright wrote:

if you are stuck at 700 for a decade then you are stuck there permanently

This is precisely the kind of person and commentary you should ignore.....don't waste a response on this person...

RussBell
llama44 wrote:

I... don't know what that means, observe it takes place on finite ground.

Maybe it means... they're getting used to the boundaries of the board or something? It forces them to look from corner to corner all the way across?

I honestly don't know.

Finite ground is the antithesis of infinite ground...

bong711

Good luck OP.  You got more advice and materials you can digest.

Glenn6h
Hi all I’m new but learning fast!
MustangMate

New players often begin by 1st learning the Rules - this is a common mistake, one made in all games.

What happens is people learn the rules and naturally develop an impression of how the game is best played.

1st presentation should cover such things as history, clocks, notation and objective/goal. Next present a few concepts - elements and principles. Only then move on to the Rules.

Rules describe how the pieces are permitted to move. The rules do not describe how best to Play.

Example: Instructing someone to play tic-tac-toe. The objective is explained 1st - to get 3 in a row. Then the rules are explained - I'm X's you are O's and we alternate placing our markers in a box. 1st explaining the rules and someone will ask "So - to what end?"

Same for chess and all games. Instructing the rules 1st for card games before explaining the objective and the structure of the game is placing the cart before the horse.

I think this can explain why many become frustrated. Their preconceptions of how to best play are grounded in the initial experience of introduction (1st learning rules and not objectives and elements).

GarryAlekhine

Just solve tactics and play long time games to understand moves

solving tactics is much better than playing games because you will find your mistakes and your brain gets ready to act better while by playing games you cant find your mistakes efficiently

MustangMate

What is the significance of the light and dark squares?

I'll wager many have their pat answers -

all of them wrong.

MustangMate
GarryAlekhine wrote:

Just solve tactics and play long time games to understand moves

solving tactics is much better than playing games because you will find your mistakes and your brain gets ready to act better while by playing games you cant find your mistakes efficiently

You've simply "made this up". There is no evidence, no studies that support this assumption. Everybody learns differently. It gets repeated constantly - without a shred of evidence of it's validity. Sure, improvement is seen by some by such a method (but how to separate from other study?)  Just as many report they've been doing nothing but puzzles and their ratings have suffered. 

I'll repeat - if it's tactics you want to study and learn, there exists better trainers than "puzzles" that are widely available.

You become a good puzzle solver with practice. How does it translates to actual improvement in chess playing skills (your individual games)? These positions where there exists a winning move (known in advance the possibility is presented) rarely happen in games for the 700 rated player. Practicing them might improve a persons playing skills who's stuck at 700 a tad, but study/practice time is far better served by other tasks.

GarryAlekhine
MustangMate wrote:
GarryAlekhine wrote:

Just solve tactics and play long time games to understand moves

solving tactics is much better than playing games because you will find your mistakes and your brain gets ready to act better while by playing games you cant find your mistakes efficiently

You've simply "made this up". There is no evidence, no studies that support this assumption. Everybody learns differently. It gets repeated constantly - without a shred of evidence of it's validity. Sure, improvement is seen by some by such a method (but how to separate from other study?)  Just as many report they've been doing nothing but puzzles and their ratings have suffered. 

I'll repeat - if it's tactics you want to study and learn, there exists better trainers than "puzzles" that are widely available.

Chess is a tactic game bro. whithout tactics you cant make any plan.without tactics you can just play opening

this is necessary to solve tactics specially for low rating players.maybe GMs dont need to solve tactics but for a 800 rated player tactic is the first step to think better

MustangMate

Perhaps you are finding "tactics" are available in every move. It's a very broad definition - one that is misleading and confusing to many.

MustangMate

People will make the assertion a tactic is seen by 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3

as a threat of winning a pawn is made. 

But real tactics involves much more. Positional moves are made far more often than tactical ones in any game.

Why don't we hear people saying "study positional moves"? After all - they make up the majority of moves in any chess game. Because it's not glamorous and boring for many, not exciting. Lesson plans prove more challenging for lazy coaches who would rather print out puzzles and send you on your merry way. 

wheelsofconfusion

Ooohhhh new replies!

thanks all!

DjVortex

Given that this thread has about a hundred replies, everything that can possibly be said has probably been said, but just for the sake of it, I'd give my own advice from my own experience. (Not that I'm myself especially strong. Whether that gives a good or a bad perspective on beginner advice, I don't know.)

For a very beginner I would say: Learn the basic beginner principles of the game (your archetypal "control the center", "develop fast, minor pieces first", "avoid doubled pawns", "put rooks on open and half-open files", "the 7th rank is very strong for a rook" and so on and so forth) and then just play lots and lots of games. The more games you play, the better you will become at seeing and avoiding easy mistakes (hanging pieces etc) and to punish your opponent for such mistakes.

Moreover, besides knowing a few basic principles about the opening, do not worry so much about opening theory. That doesn't become important until much, much later, when you become much, much stronger. Instead, it's much more useful and practical to learn endgame tactics and principles. They will come up a lot, and you can very often turn an even or even slightly losing game into a win in the endgame against other beginners at the same level. It is, perhaps, the most useful skill to have, and will be so for quite a long time.

wheelsofconfusion
Plato-Potato wrote:

stuck at 700 for a decade.

so it IS possible!


Learn from me, Padawan!

Learn the delicate art of lifelong failure and non-improvement!

😂😂😂

wheelsofconfusion
artin223 wrote:

check out my youtube channel it will really help you improve : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCofRWhGFsIphYPQwv8eEYUw?pbjreload=10


Will it?

RussBell

@wheelsofconfusion -

You might want to check out Chessable.com

A site for online, interactive learning and training.  I think it is probably the best site for this purpose.  It offers courses on all facets of chess most prominently openings, endgame and middle game planning and strategy.  Of course, most of the courses are not free, but many are.  I recommend to browse the site to see how it works.  John Bartholomew is one of the founders - and is the host for several of the courses, so check him out - he presents well and instructively.  They also have a YouTube channel...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6hOVYvNn79Sl1Fc1vx2mYA

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chessable

For example Bartholomew presents a couple of free courses on the endgame...

https://www.chessable.com/chess-endgames/

One course which might possibly interest you is a White opening repertoire for beginner-intermediate players which I think is very good..."My First Chess Opening Repertoire for White" (book by Vincent Moret).  The author has also written a similarly titled repertoire for Black.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f41ZbPq9OpE

https://www.chessable.com/my-first-chess-opening-repertoire-for-white/course/7543/

You can check out my review of the book (as 'RLBell') here...

https://www.amazon.com/First-Chess-Opening-Repertoire-White/dp/9056916335/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1585702504&sr=1-2

 

Monie49
Study
bong711

Any beginners chess book would improve your game. Study one.