Best iphone chess app?

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lisn

im looking for a chess app that allows you to create a position on the board and offers best move/strategy for black or white

KHRoN

As I have written above virtually any chess app allows to input custom position and analyze it. Of course not every chess app in AppStore allows to enter and analyze custom position.

So apps worth to mention are:

- Glaurung - strong and free, allows to enter and analyze custom position

- Fritz - the strongest engine in AppStore (or just afrer 1.3.1 update will be out, as for version 1.3 analysis is useless because it hangs on "mate in x" and just shows random blunder)

- Chess Genius - strong, has some unique features (like importing PGN base from the internet)

- tChess Pro - first chess app in AppStore that allowed to input and analyze custom position

- Shredder - strong but fast engine, yet it seems to be a bit buggy (like can't force mate in some situation)

Personally I would recommend to start with Glaurung (for free!). If it would be "not enough", then depending on what you need you should try:

- for better interface and the strongest engine - Fritz

- for importing PGN databases and watching engine to play against engine (for example to see how endgame should go, or how particular custom position can be played) - Chess Genius

[edit] or just wait a few days for ultimate chess app:

http://www.hiarcs.com/iHiarcsChess.htm

Harvey_Williamson
KHRoN wrote:

Now we can only wait for HIARCS which will be better than any of now available chess apps for iPhone. According to HIARCS forum app itself is ready but it was delayed due to issue related to US taxes...


I am pleased to announce that after various delays Hiarcs for Iphone is now available. After http://www.hiarcs.com/Games/Mercosur2009/mercosur09.htm this performance recently on a Pocket PC I am sure Hiarcs for Iphone will be the strongest available. If anyone has any questions I will try to answer them here or you can post them on our forum at www.hiarcs.net

Best Wishes,

Harvey

cksample

Thanks everyone for this thread. I've been reading it for a while now and am doing a comparative set of reviews of various iPhone Chess apps now. I'm currently running HIARCS vs Glaurung at the highest settings. Will run a few matches. I'm currently only into move 23 in the first with Glaurung playing White:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. d3 d6 6. O-O Bb6 7. Bb3 Ne7 8. Nbd2
O-O 9. Nc4 Ng6 10. h3 Qe7 11. Re1 Be6 12. d4 h6 13. Bd2 c5 14. d5 Bc8 15. Nxb6
axb6 16. Bc4 Bd7 17. a4 Ra7 18. b3 Rfa8 19. Rb1 Ra5 20. Bf1 R5a7 21. Nh2 Kh7
22. Bd3 Kg8 23. Rb2 Rf8

I noticed several Chess for iPhone developers are on this list. I've already emailed most of you, but if you see this and would like your app included in a round of Chess for iPhone reviews that I'm writing on my blog (http://www.sampletheweb.com) you can reach me via ck at sampletheweb dot com to get me a review copy of your app. I currently have Glaurung, HIARCS, and Chess Genius to review and will be doing a full roundup comparison of the apps on Obsessable.com, where I am one of the editors, once I am done.

More details here about my reviews here:

http://www.sampletheweb.com/2009/07/04/dear-iphone-app-developers/

Also, if you play on Chess with Friends and you ever want to play, I'm cksample there and I'm always up for a game.

Cheers,

C.K.

cksample

Here's the first game with HIARCS winning as black:

Mihai_Chess

Hello! I bought HIARCS yesterday and I was able to achieve a relatively easy draw in 47 moves, by threefold repetition, though I admit I had to take bake 3 moves during the game. Beside the kings, there were only 2 dark bishops and a couple of pawns left on the board at the end. I played the hardest level (2600 Elo), time control 30'/5", permanent brain set on, "active" style. The platform was an iPhone 3G, but HIARCS would have been considerably stronger on a 3GS. Unfortunately there's a bug keeping me from emailing the PGN, but I'll write down the file myself and post the game here soon. Cheers!

P.S. I posted several comments on this topic as ChessMasterFire, but I closed that account by mistake and I had to make a new one.

cksample

Here's Caissa Chess Pro vs Chess Genius on my iPhone set at highest settings. I'll be posting about this on my blog, http://www.sampletheweb.com shortly....

cksample

tChess Pro vs Shredder. Shredder won. tChess Pro actually resigned in move 116, but I had it continue to finish the game to its gruesome end.

DeepGreene

Thanks for these games, cksample!  So far, no big surprises for me.

Anything else planned?  ..Like a Hiarcs vs. Fritz battle?  Shredder vs Genius?  :)

KHRoN

HIARCS vs Fritz will be interesting, also Genius seems to be strong

DeepGreene

Yeah, for sure.  I would bet that Hiarcs and Fritz are the top two for pure strength (but I can't guess which is #1 and #2). 

Likewise, I would think that Shredder and Genius are next in line (but again, which one is #3 and which is #4 is harder to estimate).

KHRoN

I believe that Genius is stronger than Shredder, but it is hard to make both play against each other on one iPhone ;]

cksample
DeepGreene wrote:

Thanks for these games, cksample!  So far, no big surprises for me.

Anything else planned?  ..Like a Hiarcs vs. Fritz battle?  Shredder vs Genius?  :)


I plan on running a tournament between all the leading iPhone chess apps before writing up reviews of each app on my site. I'd love to do HIARCS vs Fritz, but I'm still awaiting a review copy of Fritz from the Fritz team (they say they'll send me one with the next update).

cksample
KHRoN wrote:

I believe that Genius is stronger than Shredder, but it is hard to make both play against each other on one iPhone ;]


It's not that difficult. You simply switch back and forth between the apps, playing for the other app.

cksample

I think I'm going to run Shredder vs Genius next. Then Hiarcs vs whoever wins.

Mihai_Chess

Guys, I did it! I beat HIARCS in only 59 moves yesterday evening, which is quite incredible as it was only my second attempt, the first one ending in a draw. It's weird that I was able to win this easier than I was able to hold the draw in the previous game.  I still can't say which engine is stronger, HIARCS or Fritz, but the fact is that I couldn't get past Fritz yet. One thing is for sure, though: HIARCS has the best and largest opening book I have ever seen on a mobile device in my all life. Here is the game!

DeepGreene

Nice one!  Laughing  Maximum strength I presume.  Permanent brain on?

Mihai_Chess

Yes, I played the hardest level (2600 Elo), time control 30'/5", permanent brain set on, active style and with tournament book. I had to take back a couple of moves during the endgame, but not before obtaining a fair-and-square advantage of +2,5. As I was trying to finish the game faster, I did some not-very-accurate moves and my advantage decreased a bit. I'm not so good in endgames anyway. I felt that I could win as early as the 18th move, or at least I was sure the computer wouldn't be able to get more than a draw from that position.

I still couldn't email the PGN for the draw, but I'll try to write the moves myself before the end of this week.

KHRoN
eainca wrote:

I see two applications for the iphone that allows live play, Chess Arena Live and Chess Wars.  The first is on several websites, I found it at www.slidetoplay.com.  I believe the second is from the apple site.


 Also Bereg Chess: http://appshopper.com/games/beregchess

KHRoN
cksample wrote:

It's not that difficult. You simply switch back and forth between the apps, playing for the other app.


 I've tried once (when Glaurung came out - Glaurung vs tChess Pro) and it's very tiresome...