Bishop or Knight?

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i won a game once where i had the bishop pair and 3 pawns against a weaker person, who had 2 rooks and 1 pawn. and for about 20 moves i set things up gently. and he kept saying, dang it, your bishops are strong 

 

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sorry. so . my vote hands down = bishops

 

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knights can hop over stuff and change what color they're on. sure. but

they cannot cross the board or exert power from a distance. if you turn a chess board 45 degrees. bishops are basically rooks

 

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i think the core idea behind which minor piece is better. is being able to see whats going on sooner than your opponent ; to try & cultivate a position where the minors u have can shine

 

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December_TwentyNine wrote:

Knight become very angry at Ponds in the ending, especially the passed ones. Get the King to help the Knight in case Bishy wants to grab the Knight and advance the Ponds.

If my Ponds are on the 5th rank or farther, and King is close, I'll want to get rid of the minor pieces whatever they are so I get get into a King Pawn ending and start Marching!!!

They are pawns. It depends on the position, but in general, I am a fan of knights.

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Amandavicious wrote:

knights can hop over stuff and change what color they're on. sure. but

they cannot cross the board or exert power from a distance. if you turn a chess board 45 degrees. bishops are basically rooks

 

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Amandavicious wrote:

i think the core idea behind which minor piece is better. is being able to see whats going on sooner than your opponent ; to try & cultivate a position where the minors u have can shine

 

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EnergeticHay wrote:
Oliver_Prescott wrote:

i think bishop should be 3.5

any reason why? or just from experience

There was a comprehensive analysis in the 90s. I seem to remember knights worked out at about 2.9 and bishops 3.3 or something, measured by a combination of square control and maneuverability.

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i see, that's cool

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Knights are the best for breaking into closed positions, and who doesn't enjoy delivering a smothered mate - Knights for me happy.png

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smothered mates are best!

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The most satisfying indeed

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king because its too op

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ElMisti wrote:

I find the knight a more valuable piece because when used in pairs, they can be formidable.

I think the general consesus among GMs is the opposite of what you're saying. Knights are not that great in pairs because they end up competing for the same square, while the bishops never have that problem. Plus, the knights' lack of long-range capabilities means that if you want to keep the knights coordinated, you will not be able to control squares that are far away from the knights, whereas the bishop pair can control squares on all parts of the board. Even a bishop and a knight usually work together better than two knights. 

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Based on my games, bishop ends up to be slightly better, although there are some good tactics with knights.

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mathninja20 wrote:

Based on my games, bishop ends up to be slightly better, although there are some good tactics with knights.

yep!

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I just hate knights lol, bishops are great!

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I don't like them. My favourite piece is the Rook