It's as much chess as OTB long time controls. Just a different format.
Sorry. Too many GM's have argued against this. I'm going to go with what they say. It's not chess - doesn't resemble chess -and makes you worse at chess.
It's not a matter of opinion. Blitz chess is obviously chess.
They say that too much is bad. One game of blitz is not going to fry your brain...
No - but it's not going to do anything positive for you either if your goal is to get good in OTB standard chess. The pattern recognition you think it's teaching would be just as easily, if not moreso, achieved via tactics trainer.
The difference is that in a real game you no one will tell you that a tactic is available.
Anyway too much blitz decreases your awareness over time and can create bad habits. How much is too much depends on the person.
Hmm Tactical I think you are cherrypicking. I'm a self-described "experienced player" and I actually agree that blitz is helpful for improving pattern recognition and chessic intution. In fact, I think I even posted about this on page 2. Anyone serious about chess needs to play blitz lol, not the other way around.
As I always say, better to get owned in blitz than to get owned in over the board chess - after all, tournament chess isn't cheap while online blitz is essentially free (for me at least). Don't treat blitz chess as a variant, treat it as practice for the real thing. I don't know if you guys watch any sports but essentially blitz is to chess as warm-up tosses are to baseball or shooting hoops is to basketball.
When the shit starts hitting the fan (you get in time trouble or you stumble onto a new variation) you can tell who's ready for it and who's not by how they react to the new situation. Someone who's bad at blitz will be easily exploitable by getting them into unknown variations or just lines they've never seen before while the more experienced blitz players will be able to adapt quickly and not lose too much time over it.
Lastly, try and be more open-minded as everyone learns in different ways. There's no right and wrong way to get better at chess. To be honest, I may be a bit biased as I myself grew up on blitz chess and wouldn't be where I am if I didn't spend 5 days a week at the local library pushing wood with blitz time controls back in the day.
You're argument is 'a GM said it isn't'. What if another says it is? Then we have a paradox. That's the problem with morons who can't think for themselves.
Whether it fits what you define as chess (why is a g/120 game chess? Why not limit to correspondence?) it absolutely is chess, and there's no possible logical argument otherwise.
I didn't say that, they are completely different in nature, but the same game. Both chess.
Hmm Tactical I think you are cherrypicking. I'm a self-described "experienced player" and I actually agree that blitz is helpful for improving pattern recognition and chessic intution. In fact, I think I even posted about this on page 2. Anyone serious about chess needs to play blitz lol, not the other way around.
As I always say, better to get owned in blitz than to get owned in over the board chess - after all, tournament chess isn't cheap while online blitz is essentially free (for me at least). Don't treat blitz chess as a variant, treat it as practice for the real thing. I don't know if you guys watch any sports but essentially blitz is to chess as warm-up tosses are to baseball or shooting hoops is to basketball.
When the shit starts hitting the fan (you get in time trouble or you stumble onto a new variation) you can tell who's ready for it and who's not by how they react to the new situation. Someone who's bad at blitz will be easily exploitable by getting them into unknown variations or just lines they've never seen before while the more experienced blitz players will be able to adapt quickly and not lose too much time over it.
Lastly, try and be more open-minded as everyone learns in different ways. There's no right and wrong way to get better at chess. To be honest, I may be a bit biased as I myself grew up on blitz chess and wouldn't be where I am if I didn't spend 5 days a week at the local library pushing wood with blitz time controls back in the day.
I'm surprised you say this. If I get into an unknown position in a tournament game I don't feel that my blitz skills help me. Blitz, for me, is about identifying the threats quickly, picking a move that continues with what the thread of the game has been about up till now, and then blunder checking that move. In faster blitz like 3/0 I'll often speculate on moves I know aren't best, but I know will take my opponent longer to react to them than it takes me to follow up.
What helps me in a new position OTB are the long thinks I've done in analysis either from my own games or positions in books or GM games. I can slowly re-evaluate by identifying what's going on and analysing some candidate moves.
Maybe your skills are good enough that blitz lets you explore many new ideas or positions, but I think for players like me and below that fundamental skills are lacking. Skills as simple as calculation, visualization, and evaluating a position. Long games help players like me practice these all important skills. The popular blitz time 3/0 for example doesn't allow for this at all.
You must have a store of ideas / strategic fundamentals in long term memory that when you try a new idea in blitz you know what it means... and when the game is over you can see how and why it worked or failed. Class players are still trying to move beyond catching basic tactical threats, after a blitz game finishes there's not much worth putting in long term memory for them. Post mortem analysis may be helpful, but again they never got to practice fundamentals like visualization of a future position.
You're argument is 'a GM said it isn't'. What if another says it is? Then we have a paradox. That's the problem with morons who can't think for themselves.
Whether it fits what you define as chess (why is a g/120 game chess? Why not limit to correspondence?) it absolutely is chess, and there's no possible logical argument otherwise.
My opinion is the very simple "the skills you practice are the ones that improve"
Blitz chess has the same rules as chess, but I for one don't use the same skill set in 3/0 games that I do in tournament games. In fact I often play moves in 3/0 chess I know for a fact aren't best.
One problem I ran into when going from blitz to tournament play is I have very poor time management... I play much much too slow. Now when I get down to a few minutes I have nearly zero stress because I'm confident in my bullet/blitz ability. But I never learned very well how to structure my thinking for long games, so I end up wasting a lot of time. For example having a sense for when I need to calculate and when positional judgement with a blunder check is enough.
I don't believe blitz games are harmful for your game. However, slower games prove to be the most beneficial. They help you develop a better understanding of the game.
I think it was mostly that guy who apparently got banned in the middle of badmouthing him lol.
I like TacticalSymphony because I have never seen a person go through a midlife crisis on an internet forum before!
You guys should calm down and play some chess!
all this was caused by blitz, so maybe it's harmful after all.
Ok I am going to start reading from beginning from how is blitz bad to racism again??? Why does racism issues always follow s-palin1984?? Hmmmm
Ummm why are you talking about murder during a chess match... and you shouldnt be suprised for someone calling you a name if your being racist...
Guys back to the topic of blitz... I am sure I read somewhere inside a book that a GM got to be a GM because he said blitz helped him... Ill try and search it up wait...
That stuffs funny to 12 year old american boys dont let it get to you. Be mature and let it go
when people get beyond a certain age, they seem to start taking silly stuff seriously.
S_Palin and Tacticalcacaphony have both ignored what the only IM to give an opinion had to say in post #36 or #69.
I don't really think they're actually interested in the topic at hand.
They say that too much is bad. One game of blitz is not going to fry your brain...