Blitz game leads to question about sicilian opening theory

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This was a blitz game played against a much stronger blitz opponent.  He played the Sicilian and I played the memorized moves that I know...but I had an idea that I went with on move 6.  I played f4.  I can honestly say I had not played that move before that I can recall in a game.  It was a genuinely unique idea for me at that moment in time.

The idea behind the f4 move was to push my pawn to e5 thus supporting a potential knight move to d6 later in the game.

Does this move have any opening theory that I could look into? 


I'm really happy with how I played in this game and although my opponent blundered a piece in the game I felt overall I played really well.

Thoughts?

Avatar of immortalgamer

Yeah the game expolorer only shows 2 games where the pawn is pushed 100 winning for Black :( ...Not a solid idea then?

Avatar of Zredfire

What happened after 44.Kd4?  Who won?  Did you resign?  Or run out of time?

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immortalgamer wrote:

Yeah the game expolorer only shows 2 games where the pawn is pushed 100 win

ning for Black :( ...Not a solid idea then?





 


Don't base the strength of that move sequence on what the game explorer says.

I play f4 all the time, just usually not quite like you did.

Another nice trick is to hang your g pawn after castling queenside. It isnt sound against ultra strong opponents but may work nicely in a blitz match.

Nice game btw

Avatar of immortalgamer

I won...he resigned at that position

Avatar of immortalgamer

That is very very cool alabaster!  I'm gonna try that one. 

Avatar of leo8160

6.f4 is v famous move but facing the dragon , it goes in the following order (it is called levenfish attack)  the difference is just he played 2....Nc6 instead of 2....d6 which is normal alternative in the sicilian and he was aiming for scheveningen  pawn strucyure 5... e6   

i believe still f4 a v sharp line against the dragon , but i am not sure whether its effective against scheveningen or najdorf 

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there is also opening called the f4 sicilian that starts 1.e4 c5   2.f4

Avatar of immortalgamer

Very interesting.  I have so much to learn when it comes to openings.  It is a lacking in my game for sure.  It is always a pleasure to have an idea that much better players before me have also had and researched and found to be good.

Avatar of deep_nf6

nothin wrong with f4 just usally played after be2  and castle kingside

Avatar of shuttlechess92

     move 10 by black was a mistake:  here is the correct sequence

Avatar of JG27Pyth
leo8160 wrote:

there is also opening called the f4 sicilian that starts 1.e4 c5   2.f4


isn't that the "grand prix" sicillian?

Avatar of immortalgamer

Well as shuttlechess showed it was not a good move and would have led to mate should my opponent have found the correct continuation

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shufflechess, (the end of) your analysis is incorrect. In fact, where you say "Be6" and "Unstoppable", white has nearly equalised coming from a pretty much decisive disadvantage. Play would continue: 13. Nd5 Be6 14. Nc7+ Kd7 15. c3 and black only has a +0,34 advantage.

Blacks best bet isn't 11. ..d5+, it is 11. ..a6!. Either way, it must be admitted: Black threw the game, since after 9. Ke2 White is basically lost.

Of course, this is just (computer aided) post game analysis - I play blunders like this in blitz all the time myself. :)

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Wow a6 would be hard to find in that game.

Avatar of shuttlechess92

a6 ... Nd6+

 

and 13. Nd5  a6!

 

=)  and the king chase continues

Avatar of exigentsky

Did your king see something shiny? Tongue out

Anyway, as long as they play the Najdorf against me, I'm happy. It's the e6 Sicilians like you've faced that give me the most trouble.

BTW: "black only has a +0,34 advantage." Do not confuse engine evaluations with objective measures. There is no such thing as a +.34 advantage. There is no such standard for chess and different engines will differ in their evaluation. Some, like Rybka do not even base the numerical evaluation on pawns, but rather on winning percentage.

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JG27Pyth wrote:
leo8160 wrote:

there is also opening called the f4 sicilian that starts 1.e4 c5   2.f4


isn't that the "grand prix" sicillian?


 well in fact the grand prix attack makes the f4 in the third move   1.e4 c5 2 Nc3 Nc6    3 f4 , the 2.f4 has no special name since its much less common than the others