Blitz games are better

Sort:
tcmarti
I’ve started playing more blitz because I suspected my opponents were using an engine in longer games. After each game, I look at my opponents profile. I’m regularly beating players rated much higher than me in rapid games. Looking at their profile, they win 55-60% of their longer time games and their ratings are much higher than mine. On 5 minute games, they lose the majority of their games. Are my suspicions correct?
mpaetz

     Not likely. A lot of players make far fewer mistakes and see many more good moves when they have more time to choose their moves. And too many players just play the first thing they think looks good without bothering to think too deeply. 

M1m1c15
Blitz doesn’t help you improve
Closed_username1234
blitz2009 wrote:
Most people that spend all their time playing blitz never improve

It depends who u are. 

When I first started playing chess, all I did was blitz, and I went from 600 to 1800 in about 2 years just from that.

sidewinderbill5
I like bullet
tcmarti
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. Actually, I’m quite confident of it. How do 1100 rapid players have only a 750 blitz rating? I get beat by a player of roughly my rating in rapid and the analysis shows they made only one or two mistakes and all their moves are considered excellent or best. Yet they are very poor blitz players. How does one win most of their rapid games? As their rating rises, shouldn’t they be playing better players? In 4 months, my rating has gone from 400 to 950 or so and I’ve lost considerably more games than I’ve won.
sndeww

Offense intended, but people who cheat and have an 1100 rating aren’t even good at cheating.

nklristic
tcmarti wrote:
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. Actually, I’m quite confident of it. How do 1100 rapid players have only a 750 blitz rating? I get beat by a player of roughly my rating in rapid and the analysis shows they made only one or two mistakes and all their moves are considered excellent or best. Yet they are very poor blitz players. How does one win most of their rapid games? As their rating rises, shouldn’t they be playing better players? In 4 months, my rating has gone from 400 to 950 or so and I’ve lost considerably more games than I’ve won.

I think the major reason why here people tend to have higher rapid rating (at least up to let's say 2 000 rating) is because titled players rarely play rapid time controls. So the distribution of points in that pool is probably more even. In blitz time controls, titled players compete a lot and take a lot of rating points from lower rated players. And the weaker you are, generally the bigger difference between your rapid and blitz ratings will be. There are exceptions of course, but on average it is like that.

On sub 1 000 level, cheaters are pretty rare occurrence by the way. On top of all that, people cheat in blitz as well. So you are miles off in my opinion.

blueemu

Ah, yes... players cheating in order to gain that coveted 1100 rating.

Now they must be the envy of their peers.

Ziryab

Blitz cultivates error.

sndeww
Ziryab wrote:

Blitz cultivates error.

can confirm. I spent 17 minutes in otb 90+30 trying to remember how to draw a philidor position (rook 2 pawn vs rook 1 pawn, but i was about to trade a set of pawns). I remembered, played a move, immediately dropped my pawn so he had two connected passers and i lost. I had 50 minutes.

ninjaswat
tcmarti wrote:
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. Actually, I’m quite confident of it. How do 1100 rapid players have only a 750 blitz rating? I get beat by a player of roughly my rating in rapid and the analysis shows they made only one or two mistakes and all their moves are considered excellent or best. Yet they are very poor blitz players. How does one win most of their rapid games? As their rating rises, shouldn’t they be playing better players? In 4 months, my rating has gone from 400 to 950 or so and I’ve lost considerably more games than I’ve won.

ha I kept that ratio up until 1800+

that just means they improve more than they play... or they take the time to avoid tilt...

Ziryab
tcmarti wrote:
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. Actually, I’m quite confident of it. 

 

What about those who win nearly 70%?

drmrboss
tcmarti wrote:
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. 

 

I am 2100 in blitz. And I have only 51% winrate..

 

M1m1c15
That’s normal
sndeww
drmrboss wrote:
tcmarti wrote:
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. 

 

I am 2100 in blitz. And I have only 51% winrate..

 

 

i can't even reach 50% win in blitz i have like 46% winrate

Ziryab
B1ZMARK wrote:
drmrboss wrote:
tcmarti wrote:
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. 

 

I am 2100 in blitz. And I have only 51% winrate..

 

 

i can't even reach 50% win in blitz i have like 46% winrate

 

My blitz win rate is 47%. For most of the past three years, my total losses exceeded my wins, but I turned that around this fall.

Meddard

People cheat more in longer games, that's a fact, simply because there is more time to cheat. Still you should play longer games if you want to improve, because blitz just doesn't improve your chess like thinking for real does.

Report clear suspects and block even the slightest suspects is my recipe for rapid chess, then just go next game, or take a break if you are annoyed and go next when you feel like playing again. 

sndeww

There are less people that cheat than you'd think. Around ~2100 rapid here I encounter a cheater about once every 20-30 games. So about a 4% chance. 

Basically, if you can reach X rating legitimately why can't others?

ricorat
tcmarti wrote:
I contend that most people who win say 55-60% of their rapid games are using an engine. Actually, I’m quite confident of it. How do 1100 rapid players have only a 750 blitz rating? I get beat by a player of roughly my rating in rapid and the analysis shows they made only one or two mistakes and all their moves are considered excellent or best. Yet they are very poor blitz players. How does one win most of their rapid games? As their rating rises, shouldn’t they be playing better players? In 4 months, my rating has gone from 400 to 950 or so and I’ve lost considerably more games than I’ve won.

Oh crap this means I’m cheating