blitz/bullet rating is the only thing that matters in internet chess

Ah. I got into this discussion kind of late (watched it a little early on). I thought you were making a different point

If I was a GM or professional player, I probably wouldn't have time for correspondence (barely have enough time as a patzer). Blitz and bullet would be a fun way to just try some stuff out without much pressure. So, I can see why those time controls are really popular (with a lot of people). I suck at blitz, though I have fun most of the time and I don't even see how I could do bullet.

I've played enough bullet to know that bad moves win games. I've improved my abilty to make absurd sacrifices in time pressure and win more than I did in the past.

I was away from chess 38 years,(came back november 2013) so my experience is not big enough to help a lot in blitz, but I gradually feel that the blitzgame is improving. There are less blunders now than it was before. I have lost a lot on time. I never loose on time playing corespondence or longchess.

That is very true, When i was new to chess.com (and BRAND new to blitx/bullet chess)after a few games my rating  was like 600. Then I kinda got the hang of it and now I'm 750+ Recently I found that blitz included 5 minute games which I'm better at rather than 3 minutes. So yeah... even though I've been called a cheater many a time in my corespondance/standard chess at least now my ratings aren't TOO bad. and those who join 1200 under groups are pretty much definetly not cheaters... whats the use of joining a group just to cheat the next day and get kicked out of it?

and this topic  keeps on resting...restarting...resting...restarting... its like poeple come back every 2 months with their new say!

So have I, but they are still chess moves.  I play some incredibly bad movs in online chess too because I'm impatient often and not sufficiently interested in every single game to put the time in.  Either way it is still moving a chess piece on a chess board obeying the same rules of chess, whether it is a blatant time-burner move or a move thought about for 30 minutes.

Djonni, this site gives time out protection for premium members. Of course you haven't timed out in cc here. The site has two sets of rules for cc, one for paying members and another for non-paying members. And yes, the site gives plenty of incentives for becoming premium members without making cc a tilted playing field.

Theres not much hope for people who think 1 minute chess and G/2 hours   is the same . The rules governing the 2 also differ , they are not the same . The former is much more about speed than the latter , which is much more about actual skill . The stronger titled players prefer blitz/bullet because many of them think its more difficult to cheat at these time controls , most of them also probably dont have the time ( or want to invest it ) to play slow games online . 

I think titled players have advantage because many of them had or have a coach. Let's take Danny Rensch. He had very good coaches. It's different for those who started playing like a hobby with only books.

Speaking about blitz/bullet/classical games. I'm still puzzled about their time control. I think in otb it's like this: bullet - 1 min, blitz - 5 min or 3+1(2?), classical - 2 hours for the first 40 moves, 1 hour for next 30 moves and 30 minutes for the rest. Nowdays classical games tend to have increment as well but why? And i don't understand time control in the internet. Here blitz is from 2 till 10 minutes. In other places 10 minutes can be considered as classical. For me 10 - 15 minutes are rapid. And i don't think 2 minute game can be called blitz, it's more close to bullet.

For FIDE Blitz: any fixed time of 10 minutes or less, or the base time + increment*60 is 10 minutes or less. USCF rules (mentioning since this is a US site) is essenitally the same but the fastest ratable time control here is 5 minutes (base time + incremenet/delay, so 3+2 is = 5) up to and inclusive of 10 minutes.

For FIDE Rapid: fixed time greater than 10 minutes and less than 60 minutes. With increment, base + inc*60 greater than 10 or less than 60. USCF is anything greater than 10 and less than 30 is Quick (USCF's term for Rapid) and anything 31 up to 65 is actually Quick and Regular rated.

From: https://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=171&view=article under Appendix A and B

The FIDE standard time control is: "90 minutes for the first 40 moves followed by 30 minutes for the rest of the game with an addition of 30 seconds per move starting from move one." From: https://www.fide.com/fide/handbook.html?id=39&view=category

They're certainly not the same, but they are still both chess in the same way that a marathon and a 100m race are both running.  They require different skills but en-passant is still en-passant, castling is the same, a knight moves the same, checkmate is still defined the same, etc, etc.

That call for different muscles and strategies. Those good in one are rarely good in the other, although anyone world class in one can beat patzers in the other.

Generally, if you're a GM in standard, you will play GM strength in blitz and bullet. I don't see anyone saying that standard and blitz are the same. But, blitz is a far better predictor of real (standard time, over the board) chess skill than correspondence chess.

The top 100 GMs in the world are also the top 100 in the world in blitz, with maybe two exceptions. And even those exceptions are barely outside the top 100. 

Class is class. In that respect, blitz, bullet and standard chess are all very similar while correspondence chess is not quite the same. Take a look at the work of JCButler and others on this site to see how closely blitz correlates to standard chess.

Obviously different time controls require different strategies. That doesn't suddenly make one chess and another "not chess" though.  A player who knows how the pieces move in one knows how they move in the other, they just have to adapt to the strategies needed for the different time controls.

Personally my ratings are pretty much similar at all time controls, neither especially good nor bad.  I don't regard bullet as a good indicator of chess ability alone, but someone who can't play longer chess can't play bullet chess either.

I am playing blitz as part of my training regime. I like the easy wins, and hate losing on time in a good position.I like the short time it takes to get a result. Different games - different ratings.

Hmm. Indeed. There are alot of rationales of why or why isn't blitz/bullet isn't real chess. As well as for Correspondence (which I'm a big fan of)

Again (dunno if I'd mentioned this in a post)

People playing Online Chess are literally facing an army of opponents at one time. All of them armed or in their reach, resources that often can beat GMs. But if not for players with integrity and honest ta goodness skill Correspondence often prove without a doubt that might does not make right. That this is a human game with falliables with twists & turns

Which sadly isn't often shown in Bullet/Blitz chess.

Mostly ego and who has the quicker clicker. Alot of trash talk before, during and after the game.

Mostly because they'd seen your Online rating pregame and wanted to stick it to you if your rating Online was higher than theirs

I like Blitz OTB rather than on websites. Its very real but even then OTB Blitz players aren't as discriminate with Correspondence players as with websites simply because even they know how hard it is to play Postal chess.

But for some reason...Chess.com Bullet/Blitz players totally hate on Online players because its somehow equal to Cheating. Heh

Maybe

1. They believe that all Online players are posers & use engines.

2. They realize they can't swindle vs an alert player even lower rated than them.

3. Too lazy ta study. Even basic nuances of Opening play-Rudiamentary Endgames.

4. Its just fun to just play people when they're tired of beating them by hitting the Challenge button again n again. Calling them sissies or poor winners if they dont accept.

5. Heh. Having a ridiculously high Blitz/Bullet rating means you're not a cheater and therefore better than anyone with a lower rating.

That your rating in Bullet/Blitz represents "true" skill, ability.