Blocking really rude players

 This obviosuly isn't suppose to be degatory, but clearly you don't watch UFC or else you would understand, the 'touch gloves' convention is quite different in these two sports. In boxing you would have a point.

If you do know the UFC and what I'm talkign about, then the issue is much simpler, your philosophy on morals and sportsmanship is just plain backwards.

I am honestly hoping that its the former case

I'll take that as a no then Suggo. Not able to counter? No? Quelle surprise.

I know what you are talking about, and my philosophy is just fine!  Your philosophy is just fine too.  But you would quickly learn there would be no touching gloves with me during the fight but also there is no malice or ill will in it.  At the end I'd happily say great fight and shake hands etc whatever the result.  But during the fight I would do anything within the rules to win, it's that simple.

I understand and respect that you are quite set in your philosophy, and even though I have my opinion on that philosophy, there is no need to get into it.

My view on sportsmanship is essentially that you should go into any contest with this mindset:

"I’m going to win because I’m better than my opponent at this game"

What I really mean is essentially you try to win the sport based ONLY on you and your opponents respective abilities at the sport.

In a game of chess, I want to win because I played a better game of chess, not because I’m able to stall him out in a lost position, if I was a fighter I would want to win because I fought a tougher fight, not because I snuck in a sucker punch while my opponent was trying to touch gloves. You should play to win by being better, not by exploiting technicalities and nuances that exist in every sport. (No set of rules is perfect, which is where human decency and sportsmanship comes into play).

This in and of itself is not sportsmanship, but operating on the above mindset will produce sportsmanship, just like the win at all costs philosophy will produce bad sportsmanship, sort of like the biblical story about how a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.

I understand you are perfectly allowed to do whatever the rules allow to get that win, but the sacrifice is oftentimes sportsmanship.

Like I said. Great sportsmanship. It was truly meant as a compliment.

I really admire the way that you have escaped from these difficult situations. Maybe you could give me a lesson and show me the secret to your fantastic play?

You and me both.

Tu y yo.

Suggo has the same viewpoint as Edward Duliba:

I was aghast to reach in Alex Dunne's Portrait of Correspondence Player Edward Duliba in the February 2007 that Dr. Duliba advocates not resigning and dragging on a lost game because (as reported by Mr. Dunne) an international game takes up a sigificant percentage of a player's lifetime. (Bullet Point Number 5, page 26, Chess Life).

In other words, according to my interpretation, Dr. Duliba is advocating dragging the game on in order to perhaps win via medical reasons.

I hope I'm wrong! If I'm right, it's one of the most heinous things I ever saw written in Chess Life.

This is an interesting read. I like those examples about UFC fighters. Here's another example:

If I go into a hospital, walk up to a dying patient, and make fun of him, that would within my rights.

Suggo, most people disagree with each other on matters of what's rude and what's not. But for you, it's about acknowleding the very existence of rudeness altogether. For you, the question is not: "Is this rude, is that rude?" but more like "Rudeness has no existence as long as no rules are broken." Is my impression of you true?

You go off on some extreme, and quite unrelated, topics don't you Suker!  Tell me again you aren't related to boondoggy (or something like that)!?

I have never said anything about people going out of their way to intimdate or harrass anyone as not being rude.  I have not commented on this type of behaviour, and I am not going to now because it has nothing to do with anything I have ever said.  Again you can try and twist and bend stuff in the hope that you can in some way include it, but it will still have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Suggo, I just want to clarify something about your view: Are you saying that anything within the rules cannot be considered rude?

Yes or no? (don't try to rephrase my question, just a yes or no answer to the question above please)

No, I don't have the same pov.  I am not drawing out games in the hope the opponent will die.  In this case I was drawing out the game because the fellow I was playing tried to impose his standards and how I should play upon me.  Upon which I did the opposite to his suggestions, allowing him to 'enjoy' my company and the game for as long as possible.  In the end, quite surprisingly, he also helped prove another point ... when is a game lost?  Obviously only when checkmate is achieved.

lol, I love these questions of yours....don't try and rephrase your question you say...yet you rephase nearly everything I say (incorrectly for the most btw).

My answer to your question:

Anything within the rules of chess or any game is acceptable as far as I am concerned.

And that's why most people view you as reprehensible. You seem happy with that, we're happy with that - it's the status quo.

I asked you a yes/no question, yet you gave me an answer to another question. Come on, this is simple -- I'm just looking for the words "yes" or "no." I'm saving you the trouble of typing up whole sentences. Just choose from the below:

1) "YES"

2) "NO"

The question is: Are you saying that anything within the rules cannot be considered rude?

If you need clarification, let me know so I can re-word it. But don't avoid the question.

"I’m going to win because I’m better than my opponent at this game"

If I do not go outside of the rules of the game and I win then this indicates that I am better than my opponenet at the game (at least that game)

So players will play different styles within each game...there are players that play the man, niggle and annoy their opponent in an effort to get an edge...some don't.  Doesn't make either less sporting in my eyes.

So we have to go through this again Suker!?

My answer is my answer, I am not going to answer yes or no to a question like that, you make enough far fetched connections with the qualified answers that I give.  I am not going to let you loose with a yes/no answer for you to then go off and put more words in my mouth.

I suggest people just ignore him, he's a troll, flamer, whatever you wanna call it.

Suggo, I didn't mean to imply that.

Somewhere above, you pointed out that you would do anything within the rules to win. There was an article in CL awhile back where Mr. Duliba wrote something similar - though nothing about it taking up a long time of someone's life. His point was that if you drag the game out as long as possible, your competitors don't get the information of how you did in that game, for as long as possible. So they don't know if they should take draws, that sort of thing.

His further point was that the rules specify an optimal strategy, and that it is not his fault for implementing that strategy.

Btw, I completely agree with you, if an opponent of mine was rude and asked for my resignation, I would (like everyone else) probably drag the game on a bit longer, out of spite. Which is basically what you did. And if I could find as "brilliant" a move as you did with Ra6!! winning then more power to me!

Suggo, why are you afraid to answer my question? It's a simple YES/NO question: Are you saying that anything within the rules cannot be considered rude?Choose YES or NO.

If you give me a whole paragraph explaining your answer, then people might twist it. But in the case of my question, a YES or NO means exactly that. If you need me to clarify any part of the question, just ask, but avoiding the question is very telling.

Can we avoid the interrogation please?

Please - US Senators disagree with each other a lot more than we do and yet they act with civility.

Pretend that you're a caller into NPR and that you disagree with the previous caller. They know how to disagree in a civil manner.