I don't think Carlsen has reached his peak yet. Fischer at his peak could probably beat Carlsen at his current strength, but I think Carlsen has the potential to surpass Fischer within a few years.
Bobby Fischer at his strongest vs Magnus Carlsen
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YAY! Another Magnus/Fischer thread! (Can chess.com just go ahead and make a dedicated forum for these topics already?)
Fischer is the undisputed greatest but Carlsen even more so,
Carlsen.
Carlsen could definitely beat Fisher, but not all the time.
mashanator wrote:
goldendog wrote:
Fischer is the disputed greatest but Carlsen even more so,
Fixed.
This is worthless arguing about anyway; it did not happen, cannot happen and will not happen. They are both champions of their respective eras.
Oh thanks! I hate sounding like a looser.
I saw them playing chutes and ladders once, Carlson won. Proof.
Bobby Fischer now lying peacefully in the ground. As I memorize about him he is one of the chess witchzard almost the strongest in the world. First nobody in the history defeated Russian chess ruling over the world. If not because of Bobby the Russian will rule out the chess world even a decate. As you see he lost time and time due to group fighting. It was quite an unfair tournament they play. A hero single fight with a group of grandmaster is quite impossible, even today of Magnus Carlsen. I don't think he can be strong as ' the great Bobby Fischer '. He is the greatest Hero of chess so there I give the great' to Bobby. All the grandmasters he beated are very strong. Taimanov, Bent larsen, Petrosian, Spassky within four including two World Champions not only one World champion Anand he beated. Today with the Computer help he can be even stronger than anyone else. Believe me, there is no match with ' the greatest Bobby Fischer '. Bobby is the strongest. We thank to him for the match play with Boris Spassky in 1971 make known about chess to all Myanmar citizen. Since that day even a 'trishaw carrier' (three wheel cycle with side chair) know 'the great Bobby Fischer' and from that day onwards Myanmar people known very commonly to play chess, most of the games learned from him. So what of me. I give my vote to Bobby Fischer and all my respects as well. Thanks for article.
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JOHNNY48 wrote:
A hero single fight with a group of grandmaster is quite impossible, even today of Magnus Carlsen. I don't think he can be strong as ' the great Bobby Fischer '. He is the greatest Hero of chess so there I give the great' to Bobby. All the grandmasters he beated are very strong. Taimanov, Bent larsen, Petrosian, Spassky within four including two World Champions not only one World champion Anand he beated.
Anand did beat 2 world champions in match play in different World Championship cycles:
2008: Anand beats Kramnik
2010: Anand beats Topalov
And maybe you don't like the 2007 WC since it was in Tournament format, but he finished ahead of Kramnik, so he did beat Kramnik also there:
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Chepesiuk wrote:
Carlsen for sure. Carlsen is, and I think I speak for all of us here...the light of my life. He is just..so ... amazing.
Carlsen is so much better than Fisher but why was Fisher on television a lot whereas Carlsen is not?
Is Carlsen the victim of a media boycott?
That's a good question.
Well, I think you need to wait until MagMax reaches his prime--normally, around age 25-35. Believe it or not, he should actually get stronger in the next few years, so, as bad as generational comparisons are anyway, this one is made worse by the fact that Carlsen hasn't acheived his full potential yet.
goldendog wrote:
Fischer is the undisputed greatest but Carlsen even more so,
that makes sense
ab121705 wrote:
goldendog wrote:
Fischer is the undisputed greatest but Carlsen even more so,
that makes sense
yeah. funny that.
It is an unknown it will never happen-----gets old
If you pulled Fisher from 1972, he wouldn't even know what the internet was, but to have 'fingertip access' to EVERY SINGLE chess game database EVER, you see, he'd cry tears of joy, spend 3 years in a room with the it all, and he'd come out with a rating of about 5700.
If you gave Fischer that database in 1960, by 1970, he'd have a rating of 10,000.
If you gave Morphy that database(when he was around 10), by the time he was 20, he'd have a rating of 15,000.
BettorOffSingle wrote:
Actually, by 1981, Fischer had outbooked the world and was crushing people without even breaking a sweat. Kasparov around 1988 was when people stopped viewing Fischer as the best in the world.
I wasn't serious(ratings wise). Exaggeration to prove a point. The point being, that the greats before the internet, would have been A LOT better with the internet. Meaning that, Carlsen is better than Fisher was(basically), but if Fisher's chess mind(and desire) hadda grown up in Carlsen's world, Fisher woulda been TONS better than what he peaked at. And chess minds with that oddly natural eye for chess, like Morphy also, in today's information highway, I mean there is no comparison. If Morphy was born in 1992, He'd probably be rated at around 3500 atleast. But, just my opinion, obviously we can't know.
I want to get some opinons on this. Who do you think would win a chess match, Bobby Fischer in his prime or Magnus Carlsen now?