Bobby Fischer made Judit Polgar

stxschlsv

Judit Polgar is strongest female chess player. I want to bring light to why she is so strong.

Did you know that Bobby Fischer stayed at the Polgar's home when he was running from USA? Yes he did, and he played and analyzed many chess and chess 960 games with Judit Polgar. After Bobby Fischer's stay, Judit Polgar won everything for years to come.

And the result of a grandmasters impact on such a young mind is the now top rating of Judit Polgar. Would she have been over 2700 rating if it was not for Bobby Fischer? I do not think so. Bobby Fischer lifted Judit Polgar that extra mile by showing her how to think like those absolutely best. And he did so in the right time in her life.

So here you have it, another contribution from Fischer to chess: The making of the strongest female chess player.

wanmokewan

 Sources?  If you don't know what those are, they're things like articles, books, news stories that convince the rest of us that you're not making (naughty word) up.

Martin_Stahl

Fischer visited the Polgar's in 1993 and Judit was already a strong GM by that time, qualifying for the Interzonal before his visit:

 

http://www.chessdom.com/interview-with-gm-judit-polgar/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polg%C3%A1r

stxschlsv
Martin_Stahl wrote:

Fischer visited the Polgar's in 1993 and Judit was already a strong GM by that time, qualifying for the Interzonal before his visit:

 

http://www.chessdom.com/interview-with-gm-judit-polgar/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polg%C3%A1r

Visited? You make it sound like Fischer came to the Polgar for a one-time dinner party. The reality is that Fischer lived and breathed with the Polgars for a longer period while he was on the run.

And yes, Judith Polgar was already GM, but Fischer lifted her that extra mile towards the top by playing and analysing many games with her. Do you think this was without any impact on Judith Polgar - a mind like Bobby Fischer's working on the mind of a young GM? This off course must have had tremendous impact on her thinking in top level chess. And she became the strongest female chess player.

There is big difference between 2500 and 2700.

Martin_Stahl

You really think so? She was already one of the top players in the world, able to hold her own. While it is likely he had some impact, I very seriously doubt it was anything drastic. She was already very strong and was rated 2595 in the January 1993 rating lists; in the top 100 players at 56th. I'm pretty sure she was over 2600 before Fischer visited and heading up.

sea_of_trees

Fischer used to have more than a few martinis at the polgars' poolhouse, and get a little too close to Susan, if you know what I mean. When Laszlo found out he tossed him out like a dog, luggage cases and everything. And so Fischer continued his wanderings through Europe, staying in hotels & living off his earnings from '72.

Martin_Stahl

From what I read it was the Summer of 93 when he visited Hungary. He also should of had money from his Spassky rematch in 92.

ProfessorPownall

The OP is full of crap. The Polgar sisters grew up with one of the very best, established chess instructors in the world, their father. Just another case of a BF "worshiper" spreading lies. At the time Judit was most likely a stronger player than BF. The OP has not a clue what transpired, it's all in his imagination. None of the Polgar sisters ever mention BF in favorable terms. He was tossed out as mentioned by Laszlo after a very brief stay. I challange the OP to provide a single source to back up any of his comments.

ProfessorPownall

From wiki: "

In the summer of 1993, Bobby Fischer stayed for a time in the Polgár household. He had been living in seclusion in Yugoslavia due to an arrest warrant issued by the United States for violating the U.N. blockade of Yugoslavia with his 1992 match against Spassky, and for tax evasion. Susan Polgár met Bobby with her family and persuaded him to come out of hiding "in a cramped hotel room in a small Yugoslavian village".[76] During his stay, he played many games of Fischer Random Chess and helped the sisters analyse their games. Susan said, while he was friendly on a personal level and recalled mostly pleasant moments as their guest, there were conflicts due to his political views. On the suggestion of a friend of Fischer, a match of blitz chess between Fischer and Polgár was arranged and announced to the press. However, problems ensued between Fischer and László Polgár and Fischer cancelled the match, saying to a friend on whether the match would take place, "No, they're Jewish"

 

Note the reference "In the summer stayed for a  time". Judit made GM in 1991. All reports say BF would only play 960 at that time. Very doubtful there was any formal training between any of the sisters but for looking over their games.

Also note it was Susan who met with BF and received much of his attention. Susan was also a WC. Reports rarely mention Judit. 

ProfessorPownall

Polgar: Remembering a chess champion, the late Bobby Fischer

 
Published: Sunday, January 18, 2009

One year ago on Jan. 17, Bobby Fischer, one of the greatest chess players in history, passed away at the age of 64 in Reykjavik, Iceland, just as the number of squares on a chess board.

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I received many questions about Bobby. Here are some selected ones.

Question: How did you meet Bobby Fischer?

Answer: In 1992, Bobby played his second match against Boris Spassky in Yugoslavia and was unable to return to the U.S. because of his defiance of economic sanctions. The organizer Janos Kubat arranged for my family to visit Bobby at a hotel in Yugoslavia, near the border of Hungary, in order to convince him to go to Hungary rather than being in a cramped hotel room in a small Yugoslavian village.

Bobby expressed his wish to meet me, but unfortunately I was in Peru at that time. I accompanied my family on the following visit and eventually the idea of moving to Hungary became more attractive to Bobby.

Just to be sure everything was OK, we asked the border guards if Fischer could enter Hungary and they had no objection. With that assurance, Bobby moved to Hungary. At one point, he stayed in our summer home, which is about one hour from Budapest. He was accompanied by GM Eugenio Torre from the Philippines and his bodyguard.

Question: Did you play chess with Fischer while he was in Hungary?

Answer: Yes, I played many Fischer-random blitz games with him and we also analyzed a lot. I won some and lost some. Overall, I did well.

It was one of the most fascinating experiences in my professional chess career. He was still a very strong player and his knowledge for chess was phenomenal.

Question: What is your opinion of Fischer?

Answer: Well, I have mixed feelings. I respect his chess ability a great deal. 

Note: This is interview with Susan Polgar. Judit rarely has spoken of BF. 

Ashvapathi
Judit Polgar is the only woman to cross 2700 rating. And this happened after Fischer(one of the all time greatest of chess) spent some time with her and her family. Don't you think the two would be related? Of course, its related. If koneru humpy had spent some time discussing chess with Fischer, then she too would have crossed over into 2700 rating.
MayCaesar

How easy it is to take credit for something nowadays when you are a celebrity... You just need to stay at someone's home and play a few chess games with them, and suddenly their success is the result of your effort and not theirs!

ProfessorPownall
Ashvapathi wrote:
Judit Polgar is the only woman to cross 2700 rating. And this happened after Fischer(one of the all time greatest of chess) spent some time with her and her family. Don't you think the two would be related? Of course, its related. If koneru humpy had spent some time discussing chess with Fischer, then she too would have crossed over into 2700 rating.

 

Again, just another BF fanatic. Fischer spent a few weeks time with Susan. Had little contact with Judit. Judit had her big successes starting in 1997, a whole 3 years after BF spent a few weeks playing 960 chess at the Polgars.

These "whackos" come out out the woodwork on a daily basis. 

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Slow_pawn

Interesting thread. I didn't know any of this stuff. I knew the story about the Polgar sisters and their (geniuses are made not born) father, but not that Fischer had met them. I'm a little surprised Fischer stayed with them to be honest, aren't they Jewish? Makes me wonder if Fischer would've stayed with a rabbi if he was great at chess. Also someone said Sofia was the most talented, I didn't know that either. 

sea_of_trees
Slow_pawn wrote:

Interesting thread. I didn't know any of this stuff. I knew the story about the Polgar sisters and their (geniuses are made not born) father, but not that Fischer had met them. I'm a little surprised Fischer stayed with them to be honest, aren't they Jewish? Makes me wonder if Fischer would've stayed with a rabbi if he was great at chess. Also someone said Sofia was the most talented, I didn't know that either. 

Not the most talented but the most beautiful. She turned the chess world upside down for one year, 1989 in a marvelous achievement at Rome, Italy. 

She never repeated that performance, then gave up chess for the arts (painting).

In my youth I became fascinated with the story of the Polgar sisters and in 2007 I o meet Susan in a simul at Hanley chess academy, Calif.

sea_of_trees
ProfessorPownall wrote:
Ashvapathi wrote:

 

Again, just another BF fanatic. Fischer spent a few weeks time with Susan. Had little contact with Judit. Judit had her big successes starting in 1997, a whole 3 years after BF spent a few weeks playing 960 chess at the Polgars.

These "whackos" come out out the woodwork on a daily basis. 

???? Woodwork? Oh, come out of the forest? Lol.