Bobby Fischer's psychiatric condition

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maskedbishop wrote:

>I never met the man, so I reserve judgement.<

How thoughtful of you. Do you reserve judgement on anyone you haven't met? Not just people like Josef Stalin or the guys who blew up the Boston Marathon, but how about your typical neighborhood racists? How about the head of the Ku Klux Klan, or the American Nazi Party? Reserving judgement there? Maybe he plays a good chess game...

There's a whole lot of shameful stupidity in this thread - built around a lot of denial. Your big chess hero was a terrible person who said cruel and ugly things about much of the innocent world. If you reserve judgement, then there's not much to admire about you either. 

Haha, this is such awesome hyperbole. I even agree with the point that reserving judgment is not necessarily a virtue, but man did you ever just attach rocket boosters to it and watch it fly way out of sight!

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Haha! Good one!

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The hyperbole is born of years of tolerating Fischer Worship. Not just from the usual rank and file, but from people who should know a whole lot better, including most chess writers and grandmasters who are on record excusing his comments. 

The spineless USCF didn't do anything until his 9/11 interviews on the radio. By then it was way too little, too late. The wins aren't enough, and had he been French, Chilean, Angolan or Bulgarian we wouldn't be having this conversation - he never would have been made into a chess hero except for the fact that he's an American. 

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No arguments: Fischer-worshippers are a pretty intolerable breed, though not nearly so bad as the armchair psychologists featured here and in innumerable other threads.

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maskedbishop wrote:

>I never met the man, so I reserve judgement.<

How thoughtful of you. Do you reserve judgement on anyone you haven't met? Not just people like Josef Stalin or the guys who blew up the Boston Marathon, but how about your typical neighborhood racists? How about the head of the Ku Klux Klan, or the American Nazi Party? Reserving judgement there? Maybe he plays a good chess game...

There's a whole lot of shameful stupidity in this thread - built around a lot of denial. Your big chess hero was a terrible person who said cruel and ugly things about much of the innocent world. If you reserve judgement, then there's not much to admire about you either. 

Awesome: judged for reserving judgement.

For the record, I'm no Fischer worshipper -- he said some pretty reprehensible things.  Does it warrant comparisons to Stalin?  Or Himmler?  Or Hitler?  Or the KKK?  (It most definitely does not).

My point was simply that the vilification is as bad as the deification and that where some only seem capable of dealing in absolutes, the world is often painted with shades of grey.

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maskedbishop wrote:

He never would have been made into a chess hero except for the fact that he's an American. 

Yeah, that and his unprecedented talent and performance, dominating the field by a margin not seen before or since.  His talking points later in his life have no bearing on his chess record earlier, nor does his chess record have any bearing on the quality of his character.

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johnmusacha wrote:

Because if it's not on Google, it doesn't exist.  Right.

Go stuff your robotic hive mind up you know where, you freaking troll.

Sorry, but any credible story about Bobby Fischer torturing animals would be on Google.  Use your head.  There's a lot of things that might not make it into Google searches, but something negative about a "celebrity", dead or alive, will always be on Google.

P.S. Nowhere (ever, in my life) have I said that Fischer should get a pass on anything he said.  Mentally ill or no.

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Was it Bobby who used to bite off bats heads or is that someone else ?

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Glass-Spider wrote:

Was it Bobby who used to bite off bats heads or is that someone else ?

I think that is also in that biography that robotjazz can't produce.  

I heard that Fischer had 3 lungs and the extra oxygen capacity was responsible for his sustained concentration level.  Read it in a book.  Disprove me.

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Sure why couldn't he just play in scuba gear ?

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Glass-Spider wrote:

Was it Bobby who used to bite off bats heads or is that someone else ?

Ozzy

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Ah I wasn't far off.

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johnmusacha wrote:

Because if it's not on Google, it doesn't exist.  Right.

Go stuff your robotic hive mind up you know where, you freaking troll.

Your hatred of Google is pretty funny.  DId you see the driverless cars that are coming out from Google?  I can just see you raging inside one 20 years from now as it takes you to the funny farm without a driver to complain to...

I'm not really sure that my post warrants a "you freaking troll".  You seem to be carrying some baggage.  <-- now see, that is called understatement; it works better than blowing a gasket.

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I wonder what Bobby would have been like on an Internet forum.

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Just another way of making money.. publishing another DSM.. making psychatrists/ psychologists jobs seem more important.. They get paid quite handsomely.. the bio-chemistry research of new medications.. new pharmaceuticals tested and distributed on a mass-scale. 

 

Pretty great money making operation to "fix" every last thing. I've also taken a college class that suggested psyhological disorders are a product of society not biological.. simply the structure of a culture.

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Organ trafficking is not the same as stealing someone's organs by knocking them out, removing a kidney, and putting them in a bathtub of ice ;).

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                  Why Pullin;  you sound like L,Ron Hubbard.  Are you a Scientologist??

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Frasier Crane was the guy that could have fixed Bobby up.

Guy was awesome when on the air.

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Wow, I think this thread has managed to attract the top ten narcissists on the site. Bobby has evidently not lost his magic!

Now where do I rank? Probably need to work on my tactics to move up a notch or two.

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Glass-Spider wrote:

I wonder what Bobby would have been like on an Internet forum.

Hahaha, can you imagine?