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kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#181

robbie_1969 wrote:

The idea that an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces left, right and centre should study King and Pawn, Rook endgames etc in order to improve is hilarious. ...

How much "King and Pawn, Rook endgames" stuff is supposed by you to be in the beginner and 1000-1199 sections of Silman's endgame book?

RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#182

kindaspongey wrote:

robbie_1969 wrote:

jambyvedar wrote:

Actually Silman's Complete Endgame Course is beginner friendly as he explained well the concepts in his book. It is not surprising that it has many positive reviews as it is really well written for various level.

I know a a master who teaches chess at scholastic level. This is his method. Study endgames and tactics. He has many students that are doing well. Many masters advice that a beginner should study endgames.

... the idea that studying Silmans endgame book will help the Op from dropping pieces, developing harmoniously is by any standards rather far fetched and i have really no idea why you and these other people are advocating it. ...

Can you quote a specific example of that idea being advocated?

I am sorry I have no idea what you are talking about. I would not advocate any of Silmans books to a 1100 rated player, except maybe as fuel.

RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#183

kindaspongey wrote:

robbie_1969 wrote:

The idea that an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces left, right and centre should study King and Pawn, Rook endgames etc in order to improve is hilarious. ...

How much "King and Pawn, Rook endgames" stuff is supposed by you to be in the beginner and 1000-1199 sections of Silman's endgame book?

How the heck do I know I have not the insufferable tome in my house. Ask me about a book I have and I'll tell you the answer.

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#184

robbie_1969 wrote:

kindaspongey wrote:

robbie_1969 wrote:

... If I was going to advocate any type of endgame for an 1100 rated player it would be major piece mates Q+K v K , R+K v K etc and minor piece mates B+N mate, B+B mate as at least these teach piece co ordination.

Do you think that that is very different from what is in the beginner and 1000-1199 sections of the Silman endgame book?

Dunno ...

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RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#185

Rocks behind pawns, hangs a piece, rooks belong on open files, hangs another piece. That's just crazee talk! Get away from me with your Silman cult ways.

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#186

robbie_1969 wrote:

kindaspongey wrote:

robbie_1969 wrote:

The idea that an 1100 rated player who is dropping pieces left, right and centre should study King and Pawn, Rook endgames etc in order to improve is hilarious. ...

How much "King and Pawn, Rook endgames" stuff is supposed by you to be in the beginner and 1000-1199 sections of Silman's endgame book?

How the heck do I know ....

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RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#187

Yup maybe as fuel, I am sure his endgame would torch nicely, glossy cover and all.

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#188

robbie_1969 wrote (emphasis added):

kindaspongey wrote:

robbie_1969 wrote:

jambyvedar wrote:

Actually Silman's Complete Endgame Course is beginner friendly as he explained well the concepts in his book. It is not surprising that it has many positive reviews as it is really well written for various level.

I know a a master who teaches chess at scholastic level. This is his method. Study endgames and tactics. He has many students that are doing well. Many masters advice that a beginner should study endgames.

... the idea that studying Silmans endgame book will help the Op from dropping pieces, developing harmoniously is by any standards rather far fetched and i have really no idea why you and these other people are advocating it. ...

Can you quote a specific example of that idea being advocated?

I am sorry I have no idea what you are talking about. ...

See above.

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#189

robbie_1969 wrote:

Rocks behind pawns, hangs a piece, rooks belong on open files, hangs another piece. That's just crazee talk! Get away from me with your Silman cult ways.

Do you imagine that "Rooks behind pawns" and "rooks belong on open files" are topics in the beginner and 1000-1199 sections of Silman's endgame book?

RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#190

The only person that made any sense was me when i stated that certain endgames teach piece co-ordination. I had to even prove that some technical endgames contain No calculation and No visualisation whatsoever. Look at Silmans crazee talk.

1100 rated player

minor piece v queen

bishop v queen

knight v queen

opposition

rook pawns

use you king

and all the while poor grinder is getting mauled on move twelve by hanging his pieces. do you think the opposition will save him? what about rooks pawns how will they help him? that is correct, not an iota.

You and your Silman flunkie friends are bat crazeeeeee if you think that's what grinder needs.

RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#191

kindaspongey wrote:

robbie_1969 wrote:

Rocks behind pawns, hangs a piece, rooks belong on open files, hangs another piece. That's just crazee talk! Get away from me with your Silman cult ways.

Do you imagine that "Rooks behind pawns" and "rooks belong on open files" are topics in the beginner and 1000-1199 sections of Silman's endgame book?

I have quoted what is in the beginner section and demonstrated how absurd it is, I suggest you suck it up.

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#192

robbie_1969 wrote:

What is it about GM instruction being suboptimal for class players that you are having difficulty with? ...

Do we really need de la Maza for this sort of thing? Did you notice the many nonGM suggestions in posts, #2, #3, and #5? These days, which seems better?
A. A de la Maza blanket generalization about GM instruction.
B. Using reviews, online samples, etc. to judge a book.

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#193

"... If I was going to advocate any type of endgame for an 1100 rated player it would be major piece mates Q+K v K , R+K v K etc and minor piece mates B+N mate, B+B mate as at least these teach piece co ordination." - robbie_1969

robbie_1969 wrote:

... Look at Silmans crazee talk.

1100 rated player

minor piece v queen

bishop v queen

knight v queen

opposition

rook pawns

use you king

...

You skipped the Silman beginner stuff: 2 queens vs king, Q&R vs. King, 2 rooks vs. king, K&Q vs. K, K&R vs. K, stalemate.

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#194

robbie_1969 wrote:

... I have quoted what is in the beginner section ...

Where?

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#195

robbie_1969 wrote:

... Rooks behind pawns, ... triangulation, king and pawns ...

See those in the beginner or 1000-1199 sections of Silman's endgame book?

kindaspongey

Jan 18, 2018

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#196

robbie_1969 wrote:

... Ok there may be a case that studying dynamic endgame’s as it teaches visualisation and calculation and that its good to see the pieces in isolation ...

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EscherehcsE

Jan 18, 2018

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#197

robbie_1969 wrote:

Sure its all good, was just trollin yah! You know how it is.

As Gomer Pyle would say, "Shame, shame, shame, Sergeant Carter!"

I enjoyed the show, anyway, hehe...

RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#198

Most welcome it was fun watching spungeybob and jambylamby pulling out all the stops to shill for Silman.

IMKeto

Jan 18, 2018

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#199

robbie_1969 wrote:

Some endgames are very tactical but I think you meant technical endgames, sure but I am not advocating endgame study for an 1100 rated player, its all these other whackjobs.

This is why studying King and Pawn endings is vital at the lower levels.

My student (playing in the Under 1200 section) knew he was lost in this ending, but remembered what he was shown.

RoobieRoo

Jan 18, 2018

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#200

cherry picking extraordinaire, We can show you a thousand games where the 1100 player was lost by move 20 and you have the audacity to cite a single game and state that’s why its important that they learn king and pawn endings? Hilarious. really, thanks man, for the good times.