I like that they gave back the money, it kind of sends a message: We dont need you or your money at our tournaments. It's like a total dis.
Borislav Ivanov is BACK!
Sort:
MaxBrowne_NZ wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
Why did they refund the entry ? If they have some reason to kick him out, they can do it with no refund, if they don't, it won't protect them from lawsuits.
ONE question,sir: Are you an attorney? Please answer truthfully. Yes or no.
No, neither have I studied law at college, and your point is ?
I have never been to a tournament with provisions such that the TD can refuse anyone he wants. There is little doubt that refusing someone to enter in those circumstances is unlawful (imagine your grocery store keeper refusing to sell anthing to Black/Jews/people with a name containing two 'n's). It's less unlawful than taking the money and not letting him enter without any reason, but still unlawful. A fortiori, kicking a player out of the tournament after it has started, refund or not, looks dubious, even more when he could argue that he was deprived of a prize fund that he could have earned (dishonestly, but that's not the subject).
The matter boils down to two points :
1-was there a "TD is all-powerful to kick people out at any point" clause ? (I have never seen such, but there might be)
2-did they have something against him, for instance, BI refusing a search + a clause stating that players must follow the TD's indications ?
If 1-no then the refund is unnecessary if 2-yes and insufficient if 2-no.
The headlines about found devices etc seem to be based on a couple of anonymous sources, so the question is how much that is worth. As long as there has been no confirmation from organizers or someone un-anonymous it is hard to say exactly what happened this time.
I want to see a WWE cage match between Borislov, "The Cheat" Ivanov and Magnus, "Man of Steel" Carlsen.
Ivanov would make a good heel.
Dec 9, 2013
0
#726
MaxBrowne_NZ wrote:
Irontigre: The point is simple.
1. You made a statement that "if they don't, it won't protect them from lawsuits."
2. You are making an affirmative statement concerning what may or may not happen under the law. Such conclusions require expert knowledge that you do not have.
3. Generally: It is amusing how in many discussions that touch upon legal issues in some way, you see a good amount of people instantly start to think they are Perry Mason or Laurence Tribe. It's ridiculous.
To sum this up: The point is that you sounded like a pompous ignoramus.
I asked you what your credentials are? Would you be so kind to answer that question? What is your knowledge of Spanish law?
FirebrandX wrote:
Turns out Ivanov really is innocent. Someone out to frame him decided to clone his DNA and then planted Houdini in his duplicate body to cheat in all these events under the last name of Ivanof. It worked because Erik got confused and banned Ivanov by mistake.
Ha! That's more believable than the tale it's parodying.
Ivanov :
"Of course I practiced a lot with the computer, and after beating Rybka and Houdini by 10-0 each, i was absolutelly sure that no-one was gonna stop me winning. "
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/ivanov-speaks-out-he-is-not-a-cheater
Does this settle the debate?
Dec 9, 2013
0
#730
Industrial Psychology, University of Nijmegen, Netherlands, class of 1983.
No knowledge of the Spanish law, having worked years ago helping people with social and legal problems - as long as the knowledge of an attorney was not mandatory.
Dec 9, 2013
0
#731
Answer: that question can be answered in a thousand different ways. The answer is definitely yes and no at the same time including all answers in between.
Dec 9, 2013
0
#733
Why always the people that defend Ivanov register just to comment on this topic and don´t even like to play? they create a new username every time this topic arises?
Dec 9, 2013
0
#734
SupremeOverlord wrote:
Why do the people who attack Ivanov always profile those who don't?
Working for the "December troll of the month"?
Dec 9, 2013
0
#735
Analysis using Stockfish DD 64 SSE4.2 with 3 lines @ 25 ply, taken the pgns from earlier in this thread...
BEHOLD! The Bigotrinator!
Why did they refund the entry ? If they have some reason to kick him out, they can do it with no refund, if they don't, it won't protect them from lawsuits.
ONE question,sir: Are you an attorney? Please answer truthfully. Yes or no.
Could you explain why you can only say this on a chess.com forum when you are an attorney? I think that it is polite if you introduce yourself first, explaining why you have the credits to ask this question and showing your argumentation why you think that that question has any relevancy.