I swear they play BEST OF BEST in super bowl, but outside of the superbowl? They are (CENSORED)
Boycotting Super Bowl, playing chess instead!
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fewlio wrote:
there's nothing imperialistic about the us anthem. one must remember, america was founded as a reaction against british imperialism, and the founders weren't imperialists. That didn't come in until Teddy Roosevelt (foreign domination and adventurism) and it's done against the wishes of the american people. They had to do yellow journalism and false flags to get us into ww1 and ww2, americans have always wanted to stay out of it. But we kinda took over for England in "free world leadership" as they couldn't maintain what they had, after Ww1 and ww2. Then power hungry unscurpulous politicians enjoy screwing around as the "number 1 superpower". Actually, Trumps election is a reaction against a lot of that foreign interventionism.
The American Revolution was not a reaction against British imperialism. The revolutionaries very much considered themselves to be Englishmen and were initially fighting for their rights as Englishmen. And yes, American imperialism has been there pretty much from the start. After winning independence one of the first things the Founding Fathers did was to claim all land to the Mississippi River. Then Jefferson arranged the purchase of pretty much all land from the Mississippi to the Rocky Mountains. A few decades later the US claimed most of the rest of the land from the Rockies to the Pacific Ocean from Mexico. This was all well before Roosevelt's lifetime.
Penfold77 wrote:
fewlio wrote:
there's nothing imperialistic about the us anthem. one must remember, america was founded as a reaction against british imperialism, and the founders weren't imperialists. That didn't come in until Teddy Roosevelt (foreign domination and adventurism) and it's done against the wishes of the american people. They had to do yellow journalism and false flags to get us into ww1 and ww2, americans have always wanted to stay out of it. But we kinda took over for England in "free world leadership" as they couldn't maintain what they had, after Ww1 and ww2. Then power hungry unscurpulous politicians enjoy screwing around as the "number 1 superpower". Actually, Trumps election is a reaction against a lot of that foreign interventionism.
The American Revolution was not a reaction against British imperialism. The revolutionaries very much considered themselves to be Englishmen and were initially fighting for their rights as Englishmen. And yes, American imperialism has been there pretty much from the start. After winning independence one of the first things the Founding Fathers did was to claim all land to the Mississippi River. Then Jefferson arranged the purchase of pretty much all land from the Mississippi to the Rocky Mountains. A few decades later the US claimed most of the rest of the land from the Rockies to the Pacific Ocean from Mexico. This was all well before Roosevelt's lifetime.
they wanted self representation within the British Emprie IF IT COULD SPARE WAR, when England said no, they said it's on. George Washington set a long lasting precedent of NOT getting involved in foreign affairs. The French helped the USA win the war, and then called on American help during Jefferson's presidency against the British, and the USA said to the French, you got what you wanted (England lost Revolutaionary War) and that's all you're getting. Manifest Destiny was America expanding peacefully through the Lousianna Purchase and Militarily against Spain, but it was NOT America seeking enemies to fight abroad, or an attempt to expand outside our sphere of influence (North America). We can rightfully argue it became an empire held together by force AFTER the outcome of the US civil war, but not before that. If it was an empire it was not a foreign colonialist imperialist system, it was an American empire in North America an nowhere else. And the war against spain was after the Civil War if you want to get technical.
Your ideas are historically inaccurate and misguided, merely to fit a modern political agenda. This is a cardinal sin when viewing history, to substitute our agendas and values for those of another place and time. It's nonsense.
fewlio wrote:
Penfold77 wrote:
fewlio wrote:
there's nothing imperialistic about the us anthem. one must remember, america was founded as a reaction against british imperialism, and the founders weren't imperialists. That didn't come in until Teddy Roosevelt (foreign domination and adventurism) and it's done against the wishes of the american people. They had to do yellow journalism and false flags to get us into ww1 and ww2, americans have always wanted to stay out of it. But we kinda took over for England in "free world leadership" as they couldn't maintain what they had, after Ww1 and ww2. Then power hungry unscurpulous politicians enjoy screwing around as the "number 1 superpower". Actually, Trumps election is a reaction against a lot of that foreign interventionism.
The American Revolution was not a reaction against British imperialism. The revolutionaries very much considered themselves to be Englishmen and were initially fighting for their rights as Englishmen. And yes, American imperialism has been there pretty much from the start. After winning independence one of the first things the Founding Fathers did was to claim all land to the Mississippi River. Then Jefferson arranged the purchase of pretty much all land from the Mississippi to the Rocky Mountains. A few decades later the US claimed most of the rest of the land from the Rockies to the Pacific Ocean from Mexico. This was all well before Roosevelt's lifetime.
they wanted self representation within the British Emprie IF IT COULD SPARE WAR, when England said no, they said it's on. George Washington set a long lasting precedent of NOT getting involved in foreign affairs. The French helped the USA win the war, and then called on American help during Jefferson's presidency against the British, and the USA said to the French, you got what you wanted (England lost Revolutaionary War) and that's all you're getting. Manifest Destiny was America expanding peacefully through the Lousianna Purchase and Militarily against Spain, but it was NOT America seeking enemies to fight abroad, or an attempt to expand outside our sphere of influence (North America). We can rightfully argue it became an empire held together by force AFTER the outcome of the US civil war, but not before that. If it was an empire it was not a foreign colonialist imperialist system, it was an American empire in North America an nowhere else. And the war against spain was after the Civil War if you want to get technical.
Your ideas are historically inaccurate and misguided, merely to fit a modern political agenda. This is a cardinal sin when viewing history, to substitute our agendas and values for those of another place and time. It's nonsense.
I didn't mention the war with Spain. I mentioned the war with Mexico, which was in the 1840's. I'm trying to fit nothing to a mofdern political agenda (though it sounds very much like you are, given your mention of Trump). I'll leave the politican discussions for other sites. I'm merely clearing up your errant view of the Revolution.
Penfold77 wrote:
fewlio wrote:
Penfold77 wrote:
fewlio wrote:
there's nothing imperialistic about the us anthem. one must remember, america was founded as a reaction against british imperialism, and the founders weren't imperialists. That didn't come in until Teddy Roosevelt (foreign domination and adventurism) and it's done against the wishes of the american people. They had to do yellow journalism and false flags to get us into ww1 and ww2, americans have always wanted to stay out of it. But we kinda took over for England in "free world leadership" as they couldn't maintain what they had, after Ww1 and ww2. Then power hungry unscurpulous politicians enjoy screwing around as the "number 1 superpower". Actually, Trumps election is a reaction against a lot of that foreign interventionism.
The American Revolution was not a reaction against British imperialism. The revolutionaries very much considered themselves to be Englishmen and were initially fighting for their rights as Englishmen. And yes, American imperialism has been there pretty much from the start. After winning independence one of the first things the Founding Fathers did was to claim all land to the Mississippi River. Then Jefferson arranged the purchase of pretty much all land from the Mississippi to the Rocky Mountains. A few decades later the US claimed most of the rest of the land from the Rockies to the Pacific Ocean from Mexico. This was all well before Roosevelt's lifetime.
they wanted self representation within the British Emprie IF IT COULD SPARE WAR, when England said no, they said it's on. George Washington set a long lasting precedent of NOT getting involved in foreign affairs. The French helped the USA win the war, and then called on American help during Jefferson's presidency against the British, and the USA said to the French, you got what you wanted (England lost Revolutaionary War) and that's all you're getting. Manifest Destiny was America expanding peacefully through the Lousianna Purchase and Militarily against Spain, but it was NOT America seeking enemies to fight abroad, or an attempt to expand outside our sphere of influence (North America). We can rightfully argue it became an empire held together by force AFTER the outcome of the US civil war, but not before that. If it was an empire it was not a foreign colonialist imperialist system, it was an American empire in North America an nowhere else. And the war against spain was after the Civil War if you want to get technical.
Your ideas are historically inaccurate and misguided, merely to fit a modern political agenda. This is a cardinal sin when viewing history, to substitute our agendas and values for those of another place and time. It's nonsense.
I didn't mention the war with Spain. I mentioned the war with Mexico, which was in the 1840's. I'm trying to fit nothing to a mofdern political agenda (though it sounds very much like you are, given your mention of Trump). I'll leave the politican discussions for other sites. I'm merely clearing up your errant view of the Revolution.
C'mon man it's clear you're trying to liken "Manifest Destiny" to british or french imperialist colonialism, there's no comparison. It was more like annexing territories settled by Americans, so it'd be more like German expansionism during WW2 with Czechoslovakia and Austria etc etc. And they weren't foreign affairs, they were North American affairs in our sphere of influence "the monroe doctrine." It's not the classical definition of imperialist colonialism, we didn't enter into that specificially until Spanish American war.
EAGLES are WORLD CHAMPS!!!
We All live, in the same B-I-G, metaphorical building, {that's in a bad state of multi-faceted, disrepair, on-top-of-that} ; And, if I were to explain the difference, between 'Imperialism', and, {American}, 'Exceptionalism', {one of my original points} ; It would Only address, One, of a number, of pressing issues ; That are bearing down at us, at Once !
.. But-to-say, that having the national anthem sung, {or 'played'} ; Prior to, a long succession, of sports events ; Is an archaic tradition ; That does Not justify, the circa 90 seconds, devoted, to allowing for it !
In any event ; As far as, the public perception, of it goes ; Given that, it's presented, as a virtual 'litmus' test, of ones patriotism, {including, whether one decides, to stand, or 'kneel'.. even sit}, whilst it's being played.. What 'troops'/ veterans, are we honoring, anyway ? {rhetorical}..
.. Those, who fought, in let's say, the 18th & 19th centuries, etc. {when it was a different geo-political era} ; Or or we 'honoring' our troops, currently overseas ; Many of which places ; We have No business being ! .. But, which our dysfunctional & very influential, 'military-industrial-banking', & political alliance, of convenience ; Has saw fit, to both place, and Keep them there ; For long extended durations ; Whose main 'cover story' function, is that, they're both, 'fighting terrorism'; And, defending, American interests, overseas ; For, implied ; The Greatest nation, on earth ! .. {Yeah, R-i-g-h-t}.
Ps. - Perhaps, in an oddly karmaic, twist of events ; The "Star Spangled Banner"; People are asked, to both stand, and wait patiently through ; Is a dubious, at best ; Expenditure, of a Lot of 'spectators', {& players}, time ; The latter of which, is Not being treated, as the valuable commodity ; Which, it Is !!
ARealDumbChessplayer wrote:
Its like they call their national baseball championship the "world" series, lol :)
Monie49 wrote:
EAGLES are WORLD CHAMPS!!!
There you go with your American imperialism. Eagles are just a franchise champion of a sports league in the USA. They are not world champs.
boycott the Americanisation of the internet 
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robbie_1969 wrote:
boycott the Americanisation of the internet
If you did that, I guess you'd have to leave Chess.com. 
I'd have to leave the internet
Flank_Attacks wrote:
We All live, in the same B-I-G, metaphorical building, {that's in a bad state of multi-faceted, disrepair, on-top-of-that} ; And, if I were to explain the difference, between 'Imperialism', and, {American}, 'Exceptionalism', {one of my original points} ; It would Only address, One, of a number, of pressing issues ; That are bearing down at us, at Once !
.. But-to-say, that having the national anthem sung, {or 'played'} ; Prior to, a long succession, of sports events ; Is an archaic tradition ; That does Not justify, the circa 90 seconds, devoted, to allowing for it !
In any event ; As far as, the public perception, of it goes ; Given that, it's presented, as a virtual 'litmus' test, of ones patriotism, {including, whether one decides, to stand, or 'kneel'.. even sit}, whilst it's being played.. What 'troops'/ veterans, are we honoring, anyway ? {rhetorical}..
.. Those, who fought, in let's say, the 18th & 19th centuries, etc. {when it was a different geo-political era} ; Or or we 'honoring' our troops, currently overseas ; Many of which places ; We have No business being ! .. But, which our dysfunctional & very influential, 'military-industrial-banking', & political alliance, of convenience ; Has saw fit, to both place, and Keep them there ; For long extended durations ; Whose main 'cover story' function, is that, they're both, 'fighting terrorism'; And, defending, American interests, overseas ; For, implied ; The Greatest nation, on earth ! .. {Yeah, R-i-g-h-t}.
Ps. - Perhaps, in an oddly karmaic, twist of events ; The "Star Spangled Banner"; People are asked, to both stand, and wait patiently through ; Is a dubious, at best ; Expenditure, of a Lot of 'spectators', {& players}, time ; The latter of which, is Not being treated, as the valuable commodity ; Which, it Is !!
every national anthem, praises the nation that adopted it! Including the canadian, I know it by heart from watching too much hockey as a youngster. It's healthy to care about your country, because if you do, you'll take better care of it. There's nothing that even modern nutjobs would find politically incorrect about the US anthem, except that it discusses the revolutionary war, and war is scary and mean.
Regardless there were no players on either team that took a knee, for the anthem and Old Glory flying above!
them patriots have more cheats than cheaters on chess.com! I'll stick with chess.