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Ziryab

I'm getting clobbered this morning by players that make bad moves faster than I can make good ones

orangehonda

Yeah, it's odd this site lets you do up to 8 pre-moves.  Against players rated 1000 or less in 1/0 games I would premove my first 8 moves and 9 out of 10 times would win anyway, even if it meant losing tons of material.

Against people from other countries, a 1/0 games turns into a 3/0 game... even though they correct for lag, the end result is you're getting to look at the board for a long time.

If you enjoy blitz this isn't the best site to play on really... unless they've changed stuff since I've last been on.

Ziryab wrote:

I'm getting clobbered this morning by players that make bad moves faster than I can make good ones


I bet that's frustrating.  The way I used to play blitz (maybe 3-4 years ago) was just 100% speed and tactics... luckily I didn't know any strategy stuff to get in the way lol.  Now my long game has improved a lot, but my speed game maybe only 100-150 points... speed counts for a lot if it intimidates the opponent or sets the tempo too high.

Of course on this site it's nearly impossible to set a fast tempo unless you have a very good connection with your opponent -- e.g.  > 1move/second for both halves of the game.

Loomis

Pretty tactics are even prettier in 1 minute games. Here's a nice windmill.
Ziryab

Nice job Loomis

EternalChess

I think im one of the few people who own at bullet but a bit lower rated in standard (CC)

Blackadder

personally I prefer to play  1 1 instead of 1 0. I got sick and tired of losing to patzers whose only skill was moving quickly. I kept on finding myself in won/good positions but losing (or drawing i.e Q+K vs K) on time. At 1 1 however, these players struggled against me, that extra 1 sec per move makes a huge difference: its adds about 150+ points to my bullet rating. (I could probably add another 50 points by playing with a mouse: laptop touchpads aren't so good) 

 

so if anyone else out there likes the speed of bullet but hates (a) the seeming randomness of it, and (b) the fact that positionally won games are frequently lost because patzers can play crap moves faster than you can make a reasonable move, I suggest giving 1 1 a go: its a different game. 

EternalChess

I prefer touchpad over mouse anyday..

i move soo fast with my touchpad and one day trying my mouse.. i moved so slow.

Ziryab

I played fine on the touch-pad of my old Gateway, but not so well on the touch-pad of my new Acer.

 

Although I have contempt for those that are skilled at moving quick, but demonstrate minimal tactical or positional talent in the process, their strategy works on my bad days. Tormenting them, and scheming to punish them so severely that they either quit chess or learn to play better is my purpose for starting this thread. Running away to 1 1 may work for some, but I wanna whip the wimps at their game.

EternalChess

Ziryab we should play. you seem like the perfect opponent for me.

Atos

You seem like the kind of opponent he wouldn't enjoy playing with.

Ziryab
SerbianChessStar wrote:

Ziryab we should play. you seem like the perfect opponent for me.


I watch for your seeks.

Loomis

I owe this one to immortalgamer. The first time I ever saw this gambit he absolutely crushed me.

AtahanT

Bullet-heroes are people that fail at real chess. They are afraid that their strategic play is too weak to hold up against deeper thought so they hope on playing bad but tricky/lame moves and hope you miss the tactic. It's way too much luck involved in games like that.

Loomis

Why is it that people who aren't good at speed chess find the need to constantly put down players who enjoy the fast time controls? Deal with your insecurities elsewhere.

AtahanT
Loomis wrote:

Why is it that people who aren't good at speed chess find the need to constantly put down players who enjoy the fast time controls? Deal with your insecurities elsewhere.


My fast timed ratings are approximately the same as my slow ones. I'm talking about people that have, say 2000+ in bullet but can't get more then 1600 in slower time controls. The reason I don't really go in for getting high bullet ratings is because it seriously worsens ones play because you start getting used to unsound sacs and plain dubious moves/openings that only work at faster time controls. So what's wrong with not being impressed by bullet-heroes that can only play bad chess?

Loomis

Why be so negative about anybody? Can you imagine a basketball player saying "people who play chess are just losers who can't get good at basketball."

AtahanT
Loomis wrote:

 "people who play chess are just losers who can't get good at basketball."


I think there is alot of truth to that :-)

EternalChess
AtahanT wrote:

Bullet-heroes are people that fail at real chess. They are afraid that their strategic play is too weak to hold up against deeper thought so they hope on playing bad but tricky/lame moves and hope you miss the tactic. It's way too much luck involved in games like that.


 WOW! your absolutely right! Nakamura is rated 400 points higher then anyone else on ICC in bullet.. he really does fail at real chess.

orangehonda
SerbianChessStar wrote:
AtahanT wrote:

Bullet-heroes are people that fail at real chess. They are afraid that their strategic play is too weak to hold up against deeper thought so they hope on playing bad but tricky/lame moves and hope you miss the tactic. It's way too much luck involved in games like that.


 WOW! your absolutely right! Nakamura is rated 400 points higher then anyone else on ICC in bullet.. he really does fail at real chess.


Yeah, play some blitz/bullet on ICC -- different class of players in general no matter the rating.  You don't see so much of the flimsy two dimensional bs trappy blitz player.

Ziryab

I think the term "bullet-hero" is a good one for the type of player that excells at bullet chess only. The term obviously does not apply to everyone that is good at super-fast chess, but does apply to those that employ time in a creative way while eschewing positional understanding. It is a kind of chess they play, but not a kind that many of us (even bullet addicts) cannot admire: indeed, some of hold the schemes of bullet-heros in derision.