Calculation ability is 100% genetic

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Burgerboy420

Lets face it there's no way to learn to play blindfold (which is directly correlated with calculation ability). You either can or can't. And if you can't calculate properly then you can't find the best moves. I've been playing chess and doing tactics since I was kid and I never got better at calculating.

I guess I'll never be able to compete against 2000+ rated spergs because they can move little pieces in their head better than me, oh well.

IAmAquarius

You should read Andrew Soltis's "what it takes to become a chess master". Soltis doesn't believe its even "just" calculation, "just" theory, or "just" anything, that holds players back. You should read it and maybe you'll understand what I mean.

u0110001101101000

Genetics help of course.

But calculation (and blindfold chess) can be trained, just like anything else.

You are 1500 blitz. Pretty sure you're better at calculating now then you were when you began chess.

Burgerboy420
0110001101101000 wrote:

Genetics help of course.

But calculation (and blindfold chess) can be trained, just like anything else.

You are 1500 blitz. Pretty sure you're better at calculating now then you were when you began chess.

You can't train it. Trust me, I've tried. All the good players can play blindfold from the beginning. Playing chess improves other aspects but not calculation, that is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT GENTETICS.

 

IAmAquarius wrote:

You should read Andrew Soltis's "what it takes to become a chess master". Soltis doesn't believe its even "just" calculation, "just" theory, or "just" anything, that holds players back. You should read it and maybe you'll understand what I mean.

No offense but he sounds like an idiot. You only need to look at computers to see that calculation is the most important. As I said, how can you find the best moves when you can't calculate?

u0110001101101000

It's true some very low rated players can play multiple blindfold games... I definitely can't. But I don't think they could do it from the beginning!

In the beginning I had trouble seeing a few moves ahead. Now it takes some effort (if I want the future position to be clear) but I can do it.

adumbrate

I learnt to play blindfold, my dad doesn't know. My dad is 1400 tactic, I am 2400-2600+

Who knows?

u0110001101101000

Not all blindfold games are the same. If you have to calculate a lot (a tough opponent) it's much easier to get confused and forget where pieces are.

I bet a lot of people could complete one blindfold game against a very weak player if they tried.

Mzambelli4353

lol I was about to post something like this, its kind of a bummer. 

austinqwerty123

maybe hes right i could play blindfold when i was 1000 elo and i didnt even practise i just could.btw im 15

Wezzyfish

I am going to disagree because I would like to think that one day I'll be better than I am now.  A defeatist attitude will surely lead to defeat.

toiyabe

Likely true, most things in life are genetic.  

u0110001101101000

Most things in life are trainable too Tongue Out

toiyabe

Personally I think positional evaluation is what separates the strong players from the good players, not purely calculational ability.  It's one thing to be able to calculate a forcing sequence 7-8 moves long, it's another to be able to correctly evaluate the resulting position.  

adumbrate

I never evaluate, I just say to myself, am I comfortable in that position? If no, then I figure something else out.. And that works perfectly well for me.

toiyabe
skotheim2 wrote:

I never evaluate, I just say to myself, am I comfortable in that position? If no, then I figure something else out.. And that works perfectly well for me.

That is evaluation.  

Murgen
Inatehiggers wrote:
0110001101101000 wrote:

Genetics help of course.

But calculation (and blindfold chess) can be trained, just like anything else.

You are 1500 blitz. Pretty sure you're better at calculating now then you were when you began chess.

You can't train it. Trust me, I've tried. All the good players can play blindfold from the beginning. Playing chess improves other aspects but not calculation, that is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT GENTETICS.

 

IAmAquarius wrote:

You should read Andrew Soltis's "what it takes to become a chess master". Soltis doesn't believe its even "just" calculation, "just" theory, or "just" anything, that holds players back. You should read it and maybe you'll understand what I mean.

No offense but he sounds like an idiot. You only need to look at computers to see that calculation is the most important. As I said, how can you find the best moves when you can't calculate?

What specific things have you done to train your blindfold skills?

mosai

You are of an inferior race. You'll never be able to calculate as well as Asian players.

dpnorman

It's not genetic, but it comes from training when one is young. If your profile picture is really you, then yes, you probably won't catch up. But certainly not with that attitude. It takes hours of practice, probably at least an hour or two a day.

yureesystem

skotheim2 wrote: 

I learnt to play blindfold, my dad doesn't know. My dad is 1400 tactic, I am 2400-2600+

Who knows?

Tactics:

  

 

 

Your dad might not have the time but you did over 13600 time in tactical trainer and with some talent have a good rating in tactical trainer. Pratice makes perfect.

zborg
clockblockerz wrote:

just go back to your wanking

dont think no one has figured out what your usename means

Someone should report the OP's username to the Mods.

They will delete this subtle, but THOROUGHLY nasty, thread.