Can a rook bishop and pawn match the power the queen?Please read and comment!

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myfreechess

Even though they are equal materially, a queen can easily secure the pawn. still, in the endgame, id go for the threesome. What do you think? Well have a vote!Wink

PhysicsChess101

Though a queen is equal in material to a rook, a bishop, and a pawn, The threesome can easily trap the queen while the queen can only successfully take the pawn (usually).

maulmorphy
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Though a queen is equal in material to a rook, a bishop, and a pawn, The threesome can easily trap the queen while the queen can only successfully take the pawn (usually).


trapping a queen with only a rook bishop and pawn might be near impossible.. and even then the queen should be able to least take the rook down with her

maulmorphy

of course it would depend on position.. I was thinking about any position on the board with only those 4 pieces.. but if the queen gets trapped in the middlegame by a RBp, thens theres been a blunder, as theres no forced trapping

Qwertykeyboard

I've been caught in such situations before. I prefer the queen. After all, you can just check to high hell! No, but the higher power piece takes precedent.

Archaic71

Without seeing a board position this is a meaningless question.  The most important factor was not even given - king position.  If the king and pawn are centralized and close together, then the rook and bishop should beat the queen. On the other hand, if the king and pawn are widely seperated then the pawn will not be able to sheild the king from positioning checks - eventually the queen will be able to move the king into a skewer or fork and that will be that.

Qwertykeyboard

Well that's why the point value is even. (wasn't invented for nothing!)

myfreechess

cool!

Dakota_Clark

Absolutely, it just all about what the position is.

myfreechess

position is important...

myfreechess

Queen:2

Rook, Bishop, Pawn:1

Positional Dependation:3

axue

It depends on the position. If the threesome are like trapping the queen, then the threesome, or if the pawn is almost advanced and the twosome are gaurding, then the threesome. But if the peices are all over the place, the queen will most likely be the better choice.

myfreechess

yeah...

smileative

the positions, especially of the Kings and the pawn are most important - play more games you'll develop an instinct - if u are talking about the middle game, the Queen is far better - hope that helps Smile

myfreechess

any more votes?

Zugzeit

Depending on the position, i.e. if they are the only pieces and its not a rook pawn, I would definitely go with the threesome

myfreechess

In the middlegame?

easypeezy

i would go for the queen...no offence to whoever the threesome but picking the threesome is daft...although they are the same points in value, the queen has the combined powers of rook and bishop in one, so can take control of diagnol and horizontal and vertical positions, without worrying about protecting something. the room bishop and pawn need to protect each other, and if they are, their next move would break the defence.no matter the position unless its quite obvious which one to pick, i say the queen

X_Darkness

I would feel more safe with the Queen on my side. Afterall, it is fairly simple for the opposing side to make a mistake and line up there rook/bishop with their king. All it takes is the mistake, a check, wipe out the said peice, and you repeat. However, the bishop is nothing to worry about on it's own, consider you can't get checkmate with a bishop. If the side with the pawn loses the pawn, then it's really game over for them.

myfreechess

If the pawn was a passed pawn I would pick the threesome