I don't really feel like arguing about senseless sexist topics like that... If it was a fact that women generally perform worse in chess than men, we would see a higher ratio of women in the lower elo rating, but that's not the case at all. Look at FIDE and chess.com statistics, men dominate even the lower elos.
Yeah. More men are interested because their wifes make meals for them.
@Waterstone33 Sorry, I'm not interested to continue this topic as you are clearly just trying to stroke your fragile ego with sexist comments.
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@llama36 is right... women do not have less intellectual skill than men.
I think there are small differences between any groups, but sure, on average men and women are the same, and men and women are so close that a 200 point gap is completely ridiculous.
And chess is not a game you win with intelligence. You become better at chess through study and practice. I think an IQ of 100 is enough to be a GM (otherwise we'd never have 12 year old GMs). Kasparov had his IQ tested at 130 which is something like 99% (depending on the scale) which is 1 in 100... meaning there are nearly 100 million people smart enough to be the best chess player of all time (or 2nd best if you rank Carlsen above him).
I think it's pretty obvious that intelligence is not the limiting factor.
A second coming of Judit Polgar circa 2005 would have a shot at scoring a win in a long enough match.
Yeah, it would require a long match... it took Anand 2 matches to beat Carlsen just 1 game. Karjakin beat him once in their match, but it was lucky (Carlsen was consistently outplaying him in their games). Neither Caruana nor Nepomniachtchi won a single game in their matches against Carlsen and Caruana was the #2 rated player in the world at the time of their match.
Like others said, gender has nothing to do with it. Winning a single game against the best is extremely unlikely for anyone.
Granted.
In 2005 Judit reached 2735 and would have had a shot at taking a game in a long enough match, especially if Magnus was willing to keep the games somewhat sharp in an attempt at a rout (as opposed to merely securing the win).
PS in another post somebody mentioned a WNM title, which is not a FIDE title. In the US there are no female rating-based titles. Do other countries have them?
PPS In the mid 1980s in the US the percentage of women in open tournaments was extremely low (in my area generally zero to two players in a big tournament with a good chance at zero) and the normal rating distribution made it more likely that most (if not all) women that an individual actually met happened to be the ones that were lower rated. If you didn't go to big tournaments like the US Open then personal experience in many areas could deceive somebody into thinking that higher rated women didn't exist. Over the decades the demographics have changed enough that it is no longer a shock to be paired against a higher rated female (half of my female opponents in my last big tournament were higher rated than my 19xx rating).
A second coming of Judit Polgar circa 2005 would have a shot at scoring a win in a long enough match.
Yeah, it would require a long match... it took Anand 2 matches to beat Carlsen just 1 game. Karjakin beat him once in their match, but it was lucky (Carlsen was consistently outplaying him in their games). Neither Caruana nor Nepomniachtchi won a single game in their matches against Carlsen and Caruana was the #2 rated player in the world at the time of their match.
Like others said, gender has nothing to do with it. Winning a single game against the best is extremely unlikely for anyone.
Granted.
In 2005 Judit reached 2735 and would have had a shot at taking a game in a long enough match, especially if Magnus was willing to keep the games somewhat sharp in an attempt at a rout (as opposed to merely securing the win).
PS in another post somebody mentioned a WNM title, which is not a FIDE title. In the US there are no female rating-based titles. Do other countries have them?
PPS In the mid 1980s in the US the percentage of women in open tournaments was extremely low (in my area generally zero to two players in a big tournament with a good chance at zero) and the normal rating distribution made it more likely that most (if not all) women that an individual actually met happened to be the ones that were lower rated. If you didn't go to big tournaments like the US Open then personal experience in many areas could deceive somebody into thinking that higher rated women didn't exist. Over the decades the demographics have changed enough that it is no longer a shock to be paired against a higher rated female (half of my female opponents in my last big tournament were higher rated than my 19xx rating).
I don't think there are any national W titles, I think that person was careless in typing.
I didn't start playing in tournaments until after 2000, so as I've improved I was paired with women and girls, and while they were the minority, there seemed to always be a few females at every tournament... so I can see how my experience is different than when the W titles first came about.
@llama36 is right... women do not have less intellectual skill than men.
I think there are small differences between any groups, but sure, on average men and women are the same, and men and women are so close that a 200 point gap is completely ridiculous.
And chess is not a game you win with intelligence. You become better at chess through study and practice. I think an IQ of 100 is enough to be a GM (otherwise we'd never have 12 year old GMs). Kasparov had his IQ tested at 130 which is something like 99% (depending on the scale) which is 1 in 100... meaning there are nearly 100 million people smart enough to be the best chess player of all time (or 2nd best if you rank Carlsen above him).
I think it's pretty obvious that intelligence is not the limiting factor.
FALSE albert einstein beat the best chess player at the time not having played and called it a useless game!
@CherryMyMuffins So your saying their are just less woman into chess. I think i tend to agree with you.
Your wife would probably appreciate some help with household tasks but isn't interested in them as a competition. I suspect that in general, men and women view the role of competition differently which might be part of the reason why Chess has a much higher participation rate amongst men.
Your wife would probably appreciate some help with household tasks
Perhaps. I'll ask her after she finishes folding my laundry and brings me a beer.
You say it like it's a bad thing, that your wife is an unskilled bimbo, but on the bright side if women that dumb and unambitious didn't exist you'd never have gotten married.
So, you know, maybe show her a little gratitude.
I don’t think it matters what gender you are to play chess the fact that your asking this is beyond me
I believe that if they played a 100 game match, yifan or polgar would beat him at least once.
FALSE albert einstein beat the best chess player at the time not having played and called it a useless game!
Einstein has 2 recorded games (Sell in 1913 and Oppenheimer in 1933) winning both. However, neither of them were anywhere close to being the best at the time. He was friends with Lasker, who said he was roughly a category 1 player (~2000 level).
Based upon rating, we'd expect Hou Yifan to beat Carlsen 5 or 6 times out of 100 and draw 34 times.
FALSE albert einstein beat the best chess player at the time not having played and called it a useless game!
Einstein has 2 recorded games (Sell in 1913 and Oppenheimer in 1933) winning both. However, neither of them were anywhere close to being the best at the time. He was friends with Lasker, who said he was roughly a category 1 player (~2000 level).
Woops, sorry
I don't really feel like arguing about senseless sexist topics like that... If it was a fact that women generally perform worse in chess than men, we would see a higher ratio of women in the lower elo rating, but that's not the case at all. Look at FIDE and chess.com statistics, men dominate even the lower elos. This just means that we don't generally play in chess as much as men, not a problem of intellect.