Hard work and dedication dominates over IQ. It may take someone with a low IQ 20 years or longer to become grandmaster. It may take someone with an IQ of 150+ 5-10 years to reach grandmaster. The main point is that anyone can become grandmaster, some are more fortunate to get their faster than others.
Can Anyone Become Grandmaster?

I see that Trevin has a USCF provisional 686 rating based on 4 games. Why not get into Correspondence, Mr. Murray. It is a very good way to learn openings. I envy that you live in North Carolina; your freshwater fishing is much better than in NJ.
I see someone has been doing some really good research :)
Congrats, but thats because i signed up for the NC open but never showed up... and if you want to play a game and get your ass kicked in front of everybody we can do that right now, so challenge me and i'll post the link right here in front of everybody so they can see me kick your ass...

I see that Trevin has a USCF provisional 686 rating based on 4 games. Why not get into Correspondence, Mr. Murray. It is a very good way to learn openings. I envy that you live in North Carolina; your freshwater fishing is much better than in NJ.
I just sent you the challenge, accept it so everybody can watch me kick your ass...

I see that Trevin has a USCF provisional 686 rating based on 4 games. Why not get into Correspondence, Mr. Murray. It is a very good way to learn openings. I envy that you live in North Carolina; your freshwater fishing is much better than in NJ.
dont back down like a lil bitch... lets go....
There are 8 million registered players in FIDE's database.
Now, that excludes millions of players who are registered in national federations but not with FIDE. Well over 2/3rds of the US chess players are not on that list for example.
Best estimates are that world wide there are around 20 million or so competative chess players.
GM's are .007% of the competative chess players in the world.
That means for every GM there are around 13,000 competative chess players who aren't GMs.
Anyone who thinks it's just dedication and hard work is delusional and oblivious to the facts involved.
You're right. Delusional as hell.
Well i guess michael Jackson was delusional, i guess jordan was delusional, i guess bobby was delusional, i guess oprah was delusional, i guess obama was delusional, i guess bill gates was delusional, steve jobs was delusional, garry kasparov was delusional, hell anybody who beats the odds are delusional as hell and everybody who looks at the numbers saying things are impossible because of numbers are rational... what a world we live in...
You're delusional if you think they were just ordinary no talents who just worked hard.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???? MICHAEL JORDAN GOT KICKED...KICKED OFF HIS HIGH SCHOOL TEAM BECAUSE HE FUCKING SUCKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!! HE USED TO GET BEAT BY HIS OLDER BROTHER ALL THE FUCKING TIME, I LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, WE KNOW THESE STORIES LIKE THE BACK OF OUR HANDS, EVERYONE KNOWS MJ SUCKED BUT HE WORKED FUCKING HARD!!!!!!!!! HE WORKED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF!!!!! OPRAH... SHE GOT FIRED!!!! FIRED FROM NEWS REPORTER JOB BECAUSE HER BOSS SAID SHE JUST DOESNT FIT FOR TV...NOW SHE OWNS HER OWN FUCKING NETWORK!!!!! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN KEEP MAKING EXCUSES AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS NOT ME, YOU KNOW WHAT... GIVE ME 2 YEARS I WILL REMEMBER YOU AND I WILL BE A GM.... FACT.... AND OBAMA... OH LORD PEOPLE/REPUBLICANS WILL NOT GIVE HIM A BREAK, IF YOU THINK ALL IT TAKES IS TALENT THEN YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN, IT TAKES HARDWORK...LOOK AT THE BOBBY FISCHER DOCUMENTARY .... BOBBY WASNT A NATURAL, HE STUDIED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF AND MEMORIZED EVERY BOOK HE READ!!!!! HE READ IT OVER AND OVER TIL IT WAS EMBEDDED IN HIS BRAIN!!!! SO HEY, YOU CAN MAKE EXCUSES FOR YOUR SORRYNESS, NOT ME...NOT ME!!!! AND STEVE JOBS... DID YOU EVEN READ HIS BOOK OR WATCH THE STEVE JOBS MOVIE... THESE ARE JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE WITH UN-ORDINARY WORK ETHIC SKILLS... AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE AVERAGE ORDINARY JOES WHO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SAY HELL NO, NO WAY IN HELL. THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF POEPLE.. GO GETTERS AND SORRY ASS MAKING EXCUSES MOTHERFU*KERS LIKE YOU....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWDofe0J-4
THATS ME!!! I DO WHAT I PUT MY FUCKIN MIND TOO... YOU DONT HAVE TO LIKE THE VIDEO, BUT I GRIND MY ASS OFF IN EVERYTHING I DO AND I DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS ALL DAY LONG OR YOU CAN OPEN YOUR FUCKIN CHESS BOOKS AND TACTICS TRAINER AND WORK AT IT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE... DO YOU WANT TO BE A GRANDMASTER OR NOT?... SIMPLE QUESITON, IF NOT THEN STOP PLAYING CHESS, WTF ARE YOU PLAYING FOR??? IF YOU DO, THEN STOP MAKING EXCUSES GRIND YOUR ASS OFF, NOBODY SAID IT WAS GONNA BE EASY...
Well you can use the F word all you want and in any form you want but if you think you are going to be a GM in 2 years then you passed delusional a long time ago and now you are just crazy

There are 8 million registered players in FIDE's database.
Now, that excludes millions of players who are registered in national federations but not with FIDE. Well over 2/3rds of the US chess players are not on that list for example.
Best estimates are that world wide there are around 20 million or so competative chess players.
GM's are .007% of the competative chess players in the world.
That means for every GM there are around 13,000 competative chess players who aren't GMs.
Anyone who thinks it's just dedication and hard work is delusional and oblivious to the facts involved.
You're right. Delusional as hell.
Well i guess michael Jackson was delusional, i guess jordan was delusional, i guess bobby was delusional, i guess oprah was delusional, i guess obama was delusional, i guess bill gates was delusional, steve jobs was delusional, garry kasparov was delusional, hell anybody who beats the odds are delusional as hell and everybody who looks at the numbers saying things are impossible because of numbers are rational... what a world we live in...
You're delusional if you think they were just ordinary no talents who just worked hard.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???? MICHAEL JORDAN GOT KICKED...KICKED OFF HIS HIGH SCHOOL TEAM BECAUSE HE FUCKING SUCKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!! HE USED TO GET BEAT BY HIS OLDER BROTHER ALL THE FUCKING TIME, I LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, WE KNOW THESE STORIES LIKE THE BACK OF OUR HANDS, EVERYONE KNOWS MJ SUCKED BUT HE WORKED FUCKING HARD!!!!!!!!! HE WORKED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF!!!!! OPRAH... SHE GOT FIRED!!!! FIRED FROM NEWS REPORTER JOB BECAUSE HER BOSS SAID SHE JUST DOESNT FIT FOR TV...NOW SHE OWNS HER OWN FUCKING NETWORK!!!!! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN KEEP MAKING EXCUSES AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS NOT ME, YOU KNOW WHAT... GIVE ME 2 YEARS I WILL REMEMBER YOU AND I WILL BE A GM.... FACT.... AND OBAMA... OH LORD PEOPLE/REPUBLICANS WILL NOT GIVE HIM A BREAK, IF YOU THINK ALL IT TAKES IS TALENT THEN YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN, IT TAKES HARDWORK...LOOK AT THE BOBBY FISCHER DOCUMENTARY .... BOBBY WASNT A NATURAL, HE STUDIED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF AND MEMORIZED EVERY BOOK HE READ!!!!! HE READ IT OVER AND OVER TIL IT WAS EMBEDDED IN HIS BRAIN!!!! SO HEY, YOU CAN MAKE EXCUSES FOR YOUR SORRYNESS, NOT ME...NOT ME!!!! AND STEVE JOBS... DID YOU EVEN READ HIS BOOK OR WATCH THE STEVE JOBS MOVIE... THESE ARE JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE WITH UN-ORDINARY WORK ETHIC SKILLS... AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE AVERAGE ORDINARY JOES WHO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SAY HELL NO, NO WAY IN HELL. THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF POEPLE.. GO GETTERS AND SORRY ASS MAKING EXCUSES MOTHERFU*KERS LIKE YOU....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWDofe0J-4
THATS ME!!! I DO WHAT I PUT MY FUCKIN MIND TOO... YOU DONT HAVE TO LIKE THE VIDEO, BUT I GRIND MY ASS OFF IN EVERYTHING I DO AND I DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS ALL DAY LONG OR YOU CAN OPEN YOUR FUCKIN CHESS BOOKS AND TACTICS TRAINER AND WORK AT IT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE... DO YOU WANT TO BE A GRANDMASTER OR NOT?... SIMPLE QUESITON, IF NOT THEN STOP PLAYING CHESS, WTF ARE YOU PLAYING FOR??? IF YOU DO, THEN STOP MAKING EXCUSES GRIND YOUR ASS OFF, NOBODY SAID IT WAS GONNA BE EASY...
Well you can use the F word all you want and in any form you want but if you think you are going to be a GM in 2 years then you passed delusional a long time ago and now you are just crazy
Add me as a friend... and in 2 years i will show you.

There are 8 million registered players in FIDE's database.
Now, that excludes millions of players who are registered in national federations but not with FIDE. Well over 2/3rds of the US chess players are not on that list for example.
Best estimates are that world wide there are around 20 million or so competative chess players.
GM's are .007% of the competative chess players in the world.
That means for every GM there are around 13,000 competative chess players who aren't GMs.
Anyone who thinks it's just dedication and hard work is delusional and oblivious to the facts involved.
You're right. Delusional as hell.
Well i guess michael Jackson was delusional, i guess jordan was delusional, i guess bobby was delusional, i guess oprah was delusional, i guess obama was delusional, i guess bill gates was delusional, steve jobs was delusional, garry kasparov was delusional, hell anybody who beats the odds are delusional as hell and everybody who looks at the numbers saying things are impossible because of numbers are rational... what a world we live in...
You're delusional if you think they were just ordinary no talents who just worked hard.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???? MICHAEL JORDAN GOT KICKED...KICKED OFF HIS HIGH SCHOOL TEAM BECAUSE HE FUCKING SUCKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!! HE USED TO GET BEAT BY HIS OLDER BROTHER ALL THE FUCKING TIME, I LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, WE KNOW THESE STORIES LIKE THE BACK OF OUR HANDS, EVERYONE KNOWS MJ SUCKED BUT HE WORKED FUCKING HARD!!!!!!!!! HE WORKED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF!!!!! OPRAH... SHE GOT FIRED!!!! FIRED FROM NEWS REPORTER JOB BECAUSE HER BOSS SAID SHE JUST DOESNT FIT FOR TV...NOW SHE OWNS HER OWN FUCKING NETWORK!!!!! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN KEEP MAKING EXCUSES AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS NOT ME, YOU KNOW WHAT... GIVE ME 2 YEARS I WILL REMEMBER YOU AND I WILL BE A GM.... FACT.... AND OBAMA... OH LORD PEOPLE/REPUBLICANS WILL NOT GIVE HIM A BREAK, IF YOU THINK ALL IT TAKES IS TALENT THEN YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN, IT TAKES HARDWORK...LOOK AT THE BOBBY FISCHER DOCUMENTARY .... BOBBY WASNT A NATURAL, HE STUDIED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF AND MEMORIZED EVERY BOOK HE READ!!!!! HE READ IT OVER AND OVER TIL IT WAS EMBEDDED IN HIS BRAIN!!!! SO HEY, YOU CAN MAKE EXCUSES FOR YOUR SORRYNESS, NOT ME...NOT ME!!!! AND STEVE JOBS... DID YOU EVEN READ HIS BOOK OR WATCH THE STEVE JOBS MOVIE... THESE ARE JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE WITH UN-ORDINARY WORK ETHIC SKILLS... AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE AVERAGE ORDINARY JOES WHO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SAY HELL NO, NO WAY IN HELL. THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF POEPLE.. GO GETTERS AND SORRY ASS MAKING EXCUSES MOTHERFU*KERS LIKE YOU....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWDofe0J-4
THATS ME!!! I DO WHAT I PUT MY FUCKIN MIND TOO... YOU DONT HAVE TO LIKE THE VIDEO, BUT I GRIND MY ASS OFF IN EVERYTHING I DO AND I DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS ALL DAY LONG OR YOU CAN OPEN YOUR FUCKIN CHESS BOOKS AND TACTICS TRAINER AND WORK AT IT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE... DO YOU WANT TO BE A GRANDMASTER OR NOT?... SIMPLE QUESITON, IF NOT THEN STOP PLAYING CHESS, WTF ARE YOU PLAYING FOR??? IF YOU DO, THEN STOP MAKING EXCUSES GRIND YOUR ASS OFF, NOBODY SAID IT WAS GONNA BE EASY...
They're not just ordinary people, so stop blowing smoke out your ass, bone head.

If anyone can do something it's usually thought of as pretty easy.
GM title is thought of as hard... because not everyone who tried to get it succeeded. In fact, very few who tried succeeded.
It's funny to me that people who haven't even tried try to say "they didn't try hard enough." Try it for yourself first, then comment on how anyone can do it.
"One person did it, and they worked hard" Well of course one person did it... in fact thousands have done it. And of course they worked hard, it's a hard thing to do. The topic isn't about them. It's about the millions who didn't make it.

There are 8 million registered players in FIDE's database.
Now, that excludes millions of players who are registered in national federations but not with FIDE. Well over 2/3rds of the US chess players are not on that list for example.
Best estimates are that world wide there are around 20 million or so competative chess players.
GM's are .007% of the competative chess players in the world.
That means for every GM there are around 13,000 competative chess players who aren't GMs.
Anyone who thinks it's just dedication and hard work is delusional and oblivious to the facts involved.
You're right. Delusional as hell.
Well i guess michael Jackson was delusional, i guess jordan was delusional, i guess bobby was delusional, i guess oprah was delusional, i guess obama was delusional, i guess bill gates was delusional, steve jobs was delusional, garry kasparov was delusional, hell anybody who beats the odds are delusional as hell and everybody who looks at the numbers saying things are impossible because of numbers are rational... what a world we live in...
You're delusional if you think they were just ordinary no talents who just worked hard.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???? MICHAEL JORDAN GOT KICKED...KICKED OFF HIS HIGH SCHOOL TEAM BECAUSE HE FUCKING SUCKED ASS!!!!!!!!!!! HE USED TO GET BEAT BY HIS OLDER BROTHER ALL THE FUCKING TIME, I LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, WE KNOW THESE STORIES LIKE THE BACK OF OUR HANDS, EVERYONE KNOWS MJ SUCKED BUT HE WORKED FUCKING HARD!!!!!!!!! HE WORKED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF!!!!! OPRAH... SHE GOT FIRED!!!! FIRED FROM NEWS REPORTER JOB BECAUSE HER BOSS SAID SHE JUST DOESNT FIT FOR TV...NOW SHE OWNS HER OWN FUCKING NETWORK!!!!! WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN KEEP MAKING EXCUSES AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS NOT ME, YOU KNOW WHAT... GIVE ME 2 YEARS I WILL REMEMBER YOU AND I WILL BE A GM.... FACT.... AND OBAMA... OH LORD PEOPLE/REPUBLICANS WILL NOT GIVE HIM A BREAK, IF YOU THINK ALL IT TAKES IS TALENT THEN YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN, IT TAKES HARDWORK...LOOK AT THE BOBBY FISCHER DOCUMENTARY .... BOBBY WASNT A NATURAL, HE STUDIED HIS FUCKING ASS OFF AND MEMORIZED EVERY BOOK HE READ!!!!! HE READ IT OVER AND OVER TIL IT WAS EMBEDDED IN HIS BRAIN!!!! SO HEY, YOU CAN MAKE EXCUSES FOR YOUR SORRYNESS, NOT ME...NOT ME!!!! AND STEVE JOBS... DID YOU EVEN READ HIS BOOK OR WATCH THE STEVE JOBS MOVIE... THESE ARE JUST ORDINARY PEOPLE WITH UN-ORDINARY WORK ETHIC SKILLS... AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE AVERAGE ORDINARY JOES WHO LIKE TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND SAY HELL NO, NO WAY IN HELL. THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF POEPLE.. GO GETTERS AND SORRY ASS MAKING EXCUSES MOTHERFU*KERS LIKE YOU....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWDofe0J-4
THATS ME!!! I DO WHAT I PUT MY FUCKIN MIND TOO... YOU DONT HAVE TO LIKE THE VIDEO, BUT I GRIND MY ASS OFF IN EVERYTHING I DO AND I DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS ALL DAY LONG OR YOU CAN OPEN YOUR FUCKIN CHESS BOOKS AND TACTICS TRAINER AND WORK AT IT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE... DO YOU WANT TO BE A GRANDMASTER OR NOT?... SIMPLE QUESITON, IF NOT THEN STOP PLAYING CHESS, WTF ARE YOU PLAYING FOR??? IF YOU DO, THEN STOP MAKING EXCUSES GRIND YOUR ASS OFF, NOBODY SAID IT WAS GONNA BE EASY...
They're not just ordinary people, so stop blowing smoke out your ass, bone head.
this kind of thinking is why you people will always be at the bottom, dude, why not try? really, and i really do apologize for the cussing i just idk, but why not give it a shot? you have just as much chance as anybody else does and thats all you need to make it. you have a brain use it, you can get there. just have some balls and belief for Christ sake.

If anyone can do something it's usually thought of as pretty easy.
GM title is thought of as hard... because not everyone who tried to get it succeeded. In fact, very few who tried succeeded.
It's funny to me that people who haven't even tried try to say "they didn't try hard enough." Try it for yourself first, then comment on how anyone can do it.
"One person did it, and they worked hard" Well of course one person did it... in fact thousands have done it. And of course they worked hard, it's a hard thing to do. The topic isn't about them. It's about the millions who didn't make it.
Wmaster i completely understand your point but if you look at the responses im getting, this is why, people dont even have the balls to try, i mean, if you fail its because you STOPPED, and if you truly fail then hey you know what... pat yourself on the back for truly trying. I have some personal success in music, not jay-z of course but i seen some things met some people bubba sparxx, king los, trick trick, etc and yes i understand thats music its different but my thing is, these people made it because they tried while the other thousands of people didnt try, they didnt even have a chance to begin with because they didnt believe in themselves, and i understand yes, do it first then tell everyone about your success i completely understand and it makes sense, i just hate that people dont believe they can do something when all it takes is some time, people want things too easy, i come from a family of business men and all my family worked very hard to get the money they got maybe because i have so much time on my hands i can try idk, but really i think its cause some poeple just dont believe in themselves but i can tell you this, i could careless who doubts me when i set my mind on something i will do it, and i will be a grandmaster, i dont care if it takes 2 or 10 years, i will do it.

Hard work and dedication dominates over IQ. It may take someone with a low IQ 20 years or longer to become grandmaster. It may take someone with an IQ of 150+ 5-10 years to reach grandmaster. The main point is that anyone can become grandmaster, some are more fortunate to get their faster than others.
DING DING DING DING DING!!!!!! MY POINT EXACTLY!!!!!!! YOU MADE MY POINT!!! THANK YOU!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EXACTLY!!!!!!!

Fluency, maturity, and efficiency in analytical calculations require smarter neural pathways. You could, theoretically, find ways to use mnemonics. But that's a different debate.

i know i am talking too much, but i hate the fact that tubebender called me out but when i challenge him he logs off and wont man up and play me in front of you all, cause if he accepts my challenge like A MAN then i will put the link here so all of you can watch.

Lets see... if the youngest GM was 11 (almost 12) and if IQ is mental age / actual age AND if we assume Karjakin (record holder for youngest GM) had a huge IQ of 180 (which is incredibly unlikely, but just for the sake of argument) AND THEN put that into adult IQ, it means he had the mental age of a 20 year old with an IQ of 100.
So if you're an adult with an IQ of 100 you're intelligent enough to be a GM. Congratulations.
Of course 8 years of coaching and tournaments before you hit puberty helps a lot... just pointing out the IQ thing is ridiculous.

If anyone can do something it's usually thought of as pretty easy.
GM title is thought of as hard... because not everyone who tried to get it succeeded. In fact, very few who tried succeeded.
It's funny to me that people who haven't even tried try to say "they didn't try hard enough." Try it for yourself first, then comment on how anyone can do it.
"One person did it, and they worked hard" Well of course one person did it... in fact thousands have done it. And of course they worked hard, it's a hard thing to do. The topic isn't about them. It's about the millions who didn't make it.
Thousands haven't done it. :) Over a thousand yes, but not thousands.

If anyone can do something it's usually thought of as pretty easy.
GM title is thought of as hard... because not everyone who tried to get it succeeded. In fact, very few who tried succeeded.
It's funny to me that people who haven't even tried try to say "they didn't try hard enough." Try it for yourself first, then comment on how anyone can do it.
"One person did it, and they worked hard" Well of course one person did it... in fact thousands have done it. And of course they worked hard, it's a hard thing to do. The topic isn't about them. It's about the millions who didn't make it.
Thousands haven't done it. :) Over a thousand yes, but not thousands.
Oops, ok, hundreds of people then :p

Mr. Murray has anger issues it seems. Enter USCF Correspondence Chess events and when you get as good as me, 2000+, we might actually even play a 2 game match. I will even publish the moves of said match, win lose or draw. Since you feel that you are destined to become a Grandmaster, I would say that in about 3 years you will be ready. My highest OTB rating was 1764, again in USCF OTB matches. Now I am retired (age 66) from OTB play. My rating did slip to 1500 (my "floor") but I still enjoy the game. Actually, it might be more appropiate for Mr. Murray to publically play someone who actually has challenged him of which I think some have. They might also be better challenge to him as I`m not as active as I used to be. My offer to play under the USCF system still stands but I insist that you start playing in at least one event in their system with at least one game under your belt, win, lose or draw. This way I would see that you are committed to this. The Federation might allow a private match even with a large rating disparity. Be well and, chill out.
No tubebender lets play lol cause what you fail to realize i dont just play people up here, i have beaten 1500s to 1900s in my chess club in greenville,Nc and in the ECU including NC state one, actually i play better in real life. I could give 2 fucks about your age, lets play, embarrass me in front of everybody... lets go... and i have only been playing for one year, so how do you feel that im beating people on your level in one year but it took you to 66 to get where you are.... you should actually be scared because i WONT stop, sir, i just will not stop. so accept my challenge and beat me in front of everybody like you claim, stop the talking and show and prove... lets go, enough talk, its time to walk...
There are 8 million registered players in FIDE's database.
Now, that excludes millions of players who are registered in national federations but not with FIDE. Well over 2/3rds of the US chess players are not on that list for example.
Best estimates are that world wide there are around 20 million or so competative chess players.
GM's are .007% of the competative chess players in the world.
That means for every GM there are around 13,000 competative chess players who aren't GMs.
Anyone who thinks it's just dedication and hard work is delusional and oblivious to the facts involved.
You're right. Delusional as hell.
Well i guess michael Jackson was delusional, i guess jordan was delusional, i guess bobby was delusional, i guess oprah was delusional, i guess obama was delusional, i guess bill gates was delusional, steve jobs was delusional, garry kasparov was delusional, hell anybody who beats the odds are delusional as hell and everybody who looks at the numbers saying things are impossible because of numbers are rational... what a world we live in...
You're delusional if you think they were just ordinary no talents who just worked hard.