can magnus carlson cross the 3000 elo barrier

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ChrisWainscott

He's had one 3000 performance rating.  One.  He would need sustained 3000 perfomance ratings for a long time to even come close.  2900?  Most likely.  2925?  Perhaps.  3000?  You're living in a fantasy world where you don't understand basic math.

cyberdynsystemsmodel

less likely now

YANQUI_UXO

I think it's safe to say that Carlsen, being so young, has not shown his full potential - he always says that he is still learning, etcetera.

Problem is, that not being in "full potential" mode, he is already the best there is by a large margin.

Sometimes I wonder what's going on in the mind of Carlsen's haters, I mean - it's so hard to find something bad about him, it must cost you half your day, everyday, to bash him.

YANQUI_UXO

I'm sorry, Carlson*, not Carslen ;-)

cyberdynsystemsmodel
YANQUI_UXO wrote:

I think it's safe to say that Carlsen, being so young, has not shown his full potential - he always says that he is still learning, etcetera.

Problem is, that not being in "full potential" mode, he is already the best there is by a large margin.

Sometimes I wonder what's going on in the mind of Carlsen's haters, I mean - it's so hard to find something bad about him, it must cost you half your day, everyday, to bash him.

buddy i like magnus carlsen a lot...hes a great player but in olympiad i think he lost bunch of elo points.....it was sad but sometimes playing with players much less ur strenght makes u feel nervous...may b thats y he lost lets hope he wins sinqfield cup

Sac4win

Certainly, he would.

in_prasad

Definetely Magnus can. He deserve it.

cyberdynsystemsmodel

HMMM AGREEDSO

mnhsr

not by losing to the Saric's of the world.

DjonniDerevnja
mnhsr wrote:

not by losing to the Saric's of the world.

Saric looks like he is heading for 2700, and maybe 2800 later. He is good. There are a bunch of players out there thats dangerous to the top ten. Some of them comes from China. I hope there will be more open tournaments, gathering both the top-players , and a lot more. If it happens I guess the top ten must give up some points, and its a big chance that goes for Magnus too.

I think the Olympiad was fantastic. A lot of good players got games against eachothers and the superstars.

MuhammadAreez10
Indubioproaggredi wrote:
DjonniDerevnja hat geschrieben:
mnhsr wrote:

not by losing to the Saric's of the world.

Saric looks like he is heading for 2700, and maybe 2800 later. He is good. There are a bunch of players out there thats dangerous to the top ten. Some of them comes from China. I hope there will be more open tournaments, gathering both the top-players , and a lot more. If it happens I guess the top ten must give up some points, and its a big chance that goes for Magnus too.

I think the Olympiad was fantastic. A lot of good players got games against eachothers and the superstars.

agree - olympiad is an interesting event

But, the 2700+ Super-GMs usually lose rating points, which seems unjustified.Tongue Out

DjonniDerevnja

If 2700+ loose points, it is because strong players are coming up. That is how the system ideally shal work. If there are barriers, like invitational top-ten tournaments , these barriers will obstruct the natural flow of rating, and the population on each side of the barrier will get ratings less comparable to eachother.

The super-GM´s might be slightly overrated now, because they don`t play enough outside their superenvironment.

Magnus lost a few points in the Olympiad, and maybe his rating is more precise now.

mnhsr

let's ask him

DiogenesDue
Indubioproaggredi wrote:
JMB2010 hat geschrieben:

Today, Chessnews.com revealed that after FIDE president Kirsan Ilyumzhinov refused to postpone the world championship match in Sochi, Carlsen wrote a letter to the president declaring the resignation of his title, much like Fischer did 40 years ago. Carlsen has announced his desire to create a new organization, much like Kasparov's PCA. FIDE has announced a new world championship match between Anand and Karjakin taking place in Sochi in November. More information can be found here -

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SilentKnighte5

I'm not sure he will even break 2900.  3000 is out of the question.

SmyslovFan

He's already broken 2900 in FIDE rated blitz, but in standard time controls, I agree that it's unclear whether he'll be able to break 2900. He still has about 5-10 years of elite chess in him, judging by the practice of others. (Fischer retired in his prime, at age 31 and Kasparov retired at 42 while still #1 in the world.)

fabelhaft
SmyslovFan wrote:

He still has about 5-10 years of elite chess in him, judging by the practice of others.

Not more? He will only be 28 five years from now. All his predecessors on the throne have been playing chess at high elite level when they were around 40 or older. The only exception being Fischer, who quit early. Maybe Carlsen will too, but that remains to be seen.

SmyslovFan

He can have a longer career, but generally a player reaches his or her prime between 28-33 years old. Once they reach their prime, they often have a long period of relative stability, sometimes lasting well into their 50s. But it's extremely rare for a professional player to post his or her highest rating after about age 33-35.

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SmyslovFan wrote:

He can have a longer career, but generally a player reaches his or her prime between 28-33 years old. Once they reach their prime, they often have a long period of relative stability, sometimes lasting well into their 50s. But it's extremely rare for a professional player to post his or her highest rating after about age 33-35.

This is an interesting case:

Julio Granda Zuñiga

http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=3800024

He got his peak rating (2685) with 47 years.

Pulpofeira

Julio Granda! The Ivanchuk of Camaná!