Can somebody explain this?

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waffllemaster
Conflagration_Planet wrote:

He trained for years, after reaching IM, and improved only a little, until he peaked out. He had been training since the age of six under the best coaches, remember. He described his childhood in his Attacking Chess book, and it sounded practically ideal. Not the crappy treatment described in the movie, at all. Movies are never accurate. He probably had better training, growing up than most IMs, who admit they couldn't reach 2700. Yet many people on here, seem to think he had boat loads more potential than other IMs. Just wondering why.

I never read his book.  I thought he quit while he was still pretty young.  Yeah he played in 1999 or something, but that was long after he quit.

Conflagration_Planet
waffllemaster wrote:
Conflagration_Planet wrote:

He trained for years, after reaching IM, and improved only a little, until he peaked out. He had been training since the age of six under the best coaches, remember. He described his childhood in his Attacking Chess book, and it sounded practically ideal. Not the crappy treatment described in the movie, at all. Movies are never accurate. He probably had better training, growing up than most IMs, who admit they couldn't reach 2700. Yet many people on here, seem to think he had boat loads more potential than other IMs. Just wondering why.

I never read his book.  I thought he quit while he was still pretty young.  Yeah he played in 1999 or something, but that was long after he quit.

I couldn't find any info on it. You should read the book, though. You can tell he certainly wanted to get to GM level. You could also tell he had reached the level where he was no longer the most talented one in the mix.

waffllemaster

Well, maybe he never would have been GM then, I don't know :p

Considering in the whole picture, i.e. considering he never made it to GM... he wasn't able to make it heh :D

Conflagration_Planet
waffllemaster wrote:

Well, maybe he never would have been GM then, I don't know :p

Considering in the whole picture, i.e. considering he never made it to GM... he wasn't able to make it heh :D

It was just very obvious he wanted to get to the top in chess. That's why I say that if he could have, he would have. He gave me the impression, he was an intelligent individual, Just not world class chess talented. Though very talented, since you must be to make it to IM.

bobbyDK

I think Josh realized that if he was going to be a GM he would have to play a different kind of chess than he really wanted to do.
Josh was playing real chess.
he wrote a lot of times that he didn't wanted to be like Karpov but I think he realized to become GM he had to become another player someone like Karpov and that was against his integrity.
his internal battle of fighting the wrong lessons of thinking like Karpov lead him to stop in my opinion.

Scottrf

He could play whatever chess he wanted if he was good enough at it.

bobbyDK

lol kind of funny we(all below 2000) are sitting and discussing why a 2480 rated didn't become GM.  
having said that I think the topic is still quite interesting.

Martin_Stahl

It's surprising there is so much speculation about him. Most of the speculation would be answered by reading his other book, "The Art of Learning". It has been a couple of years since I read it but it goes into depth on how he felt about chess and his chances at becoming a better player, what it would take, and why he moved on to something else.

eddysallin

why do people make so much out of cult movies ?

Conflagration_Planet
eddysallin wrote:

why do people make so much out of cult movies ?

They make too much out of all movies.

Conflagration_Planet
bobbyDK wrote:

I think Josh realized that if he was going to be a GM he would have to play a different kind of chess than he really wanted to do.
Josh was playing real chess.
he wrote a lot of times that he didn't wanted to be like Karpov but I think he realized to become GM he had to become another player someone like Karpov and that was against his integrity.
his internal battle of fighting the wrong lessons of thinking like Karpov lead him to stop in my opinion.

Against his integrity?