Can someone explain why my solution to tactic trainer #63379 is wrong? - Chess Forums

jkh0208

Sep 26, 2017

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*** Edit: Disregard, I missed one of white's options in that line. ***

Can someone explain why my solution to tactic trainer #63379 is wrong?

https://www.chess.com/tactics/63379

My solution was as follows:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Ne2+ 3. Kh1 Bxg2#

It is a solution that definitely solves for mate in the smallest amount of moves, so why do I completely lose all points for this tactic for not doing it that way? If there is more than one route to a guaranteed checkmate, why do we not get credit for finding an alternative to the one it expects? The actual solution suboptimal and allows white more moves to respond. My solution doesn't even allow white to respond and is an instant mate. The puzzle expected the following:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Bxg2

If I do that, white can respond with Re1 after black does Ne2, which causes mate to be avoided by white. Is this an error, or am I missing something?

LeonSKennedy992

Sep 26, 2017

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jkh0208 wrote:

Can someone explain why my solution to tactic trainer #63379 is wrong?

My solution was as follows:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Ne2+ 3. Kh1 Bxg2#

It is a solution that definitely solves for mate in the smallest amount of moves, so why do I completely lose all points for this tactic for not doing it that way? If there is more than one route to a guaranteed checkmate, why do we not get credit for finding an alternative to the one it expects? The actual solution suboptimal and allows white more moves to respond. My solution doesn't even allow white to respond and is an instant mate. The puzzle expected the following:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Bxg2

If I do that, white can respond with Re1 after black does Ne2, which causes mate to be avoided by white. Is this an error, or am I missing something?

Please play live chess.

jkh0208

Sep 26, 2017

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LeonSKennedy992 wrote:

jkh0208 wrote:

Can someone explain why my solution to tactic trainer #63379 is wrong?

My solution was as follows:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Ne2+ 3. Kh1 Bxg2#

It is a solution that definitely solves for mate in the smallest amount of moves, so why do I completely lose all points for this tactic for not doing it that way? If there is more than one route to a guaranteed checkmate, why do we not get credit for finding an alternative to the one it expects? The actual solution suboptimal and allows white more moves to respond. My solution doesn't even allow white to respond and is an instant mate. The puzzle expected the following:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Bxg2

If I do that, white can respond with Re1 after black does Ne2, which causes mate to be avoided by white. Is this an error, or am I missing something?

Please play live chess.

You're rated 1800+, you'd destroy me in live chess.

LeonSKennedy992

Sep 26, 2017

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#4

Part of the learning process is being destroyed by stronger players. Then, you can analyze your mistakes. Or ask your opponent to give you advice. I would happily give you advice if we played.

Cheers, and I hope you improve super rapidly

macer75

Sep 26, 2017

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jkh0208 wrote:

Can someone explain why my solution to tactic trainer #63379 is wrong?

https://www.chess.com/tactics/63379

My solution was as follows:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Ne2+ 3. Kh1 Bxg2#

It is a solution that definitely solves for mate in the smallest amount of moves, so why do I completely lose all points for this tactic for not doing it that way? If there is more than one route to a guaranteed checkmate, why do we not get credit for finding an alternative to the one it expects? The actual solution suboptimal and allows white more moves to respond. My solution doesn't even allow white to respond and is an instant mate. The puzzle expected the following:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Bxg2

If I do that, white can respond with Re1 after black does Ne2, which causes mate to be avoided by white. Is this an error, or am I missing something?

If white goes Re1, black can still checkmate with the knight on h3.

The problem with your solution is that white can play 3. Kf1.

jkh0208

Sep 26, 2017

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LeonSKennedy992 wrote:

Part of the learning process is being destroyed by stronger players. Then, you can analyze your mistakes. Or ask your opponent to give you advice. I would happily give you advice if we played.

Cheers, and I hope you improve super rapidly

Thanks! I'll play a game with you when I get some free time to dedicate to sitting through a game, maybe later this week. I've pretty much been doing TT puzzles on my phone at work during breaks, so haven't really taken time to play through a live game on here yet.

jkh0208

Sep 26, 2017

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macer75 wrote:

jkh0208 wrote:

Can someone explain why my solution to tactic trainer #63379 is wrong?

https://www.chess.com/tactics/63379

My solution was as follows:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Ne2+ 3. Kh1 Bxg2#

It is a solution that definitely solves for mate in the smallest amount of moves, so why do I completely lose all points for this tactic for not doing it that way? If there is more than one route to a guaranteed checkmate, why do we not get credit for finding an alternative to the one it expects? The actual solution suboptimal and allows white more moves to respond. My solution doesn't even allow white to respond and is an instant mate. The puzzle expected the following:

1. Bf1 Rg8+ 2. Bg2 Bxg2

If I do that, white can respond with Re1 after black does Ne2, which causes mate to be avoided by white. Is this an error, or am I missing something?

If white goes Re1, black can still checkmate with the knight on h3.

The problem with your solution is that white can play 3. Kf1.

Ah, I missed that. Thanks!

jkh0208

Sep 26, 2017

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#8

ZebraGang wrote:

they can go kf1 instead of kh1

Thanks, I missed that