can we ban all anti-female topics

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Avatar of richb8888

you were being sarcastic-you were not being nice, I am a poor player, but I dont care. I never said tear down free speech but if those post are written they should be taken down, they violate the rules of the website. Just because you can write something does not mean you should write something. What is the value of constantly demeaning females?

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richb8888 wrote:

you were being sarcastic-you were not being nice, I am a poor player, but I dont care. I never said tear down free speech but if those post are written they should be taken down, they violate the rules of the website. Just because you can write something does not mean you should write something. What is the value of constantly demeaning females?

i wasnt being sarcastic. I posted a thread saying alicia vikander is hot and all the chodes on here said it was demeaning. Its a compliment. fyi to all the others. dont compliment him he is too insecure to believe anyone would give him praise. Sir, i think you lack purpose. start with a job.

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*tries really hard but ultimately unsuccessfully to find a reason why moderation on a private website is a free speech issue*

y'all triflin' as per

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you said I was a great player lol

Avatar of Elubas

When the whole point of free speech is that your or others' attitudes towards something doesn't affect the freedom of the person to express it, it seems a little logically suspicious to claim an exception to free speech based on your attitude towards something. That makes it look more like you didn't agree with free speech in the first place.

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I absolutely think that sites have the right to moderate things, particularly spam, but they can and should be able to moderate whatever they want. But it's also fine for the person censored to think that that site doesn't appreciate freedom as much as they should.

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sure it's their right, but it's still a private website and they're still wrong and probably own way too many items of clothing featuring the american flag

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Reb wrote:

If the protection of the First Amendment is to have any meaning at all, then it must protect speech that some will find offensive or disrespectful. Speech everybody agrees with doesn't need any protection.

 
 
Its sad to see so many Americans be so wrong about what free speech means and how important it is . 
 
As for political correctness , you cannot have it AND free speech . 
 
 The PC technique of vilification and intimidation of those who do not comply or conform has been used by all totalitarian systems, including that headed by Hitler, the Red Guards in China, and the re-education camps of Pol Pot, Castro's Cuba and the former Soviet Union.
 

The First Amendment has no jurisdiction over who can say what on a message board; it just bars the government from forcing you to shut up.

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Avatar of Wolfbird

From the above post, you see that you can be as stupid as you are and no one will arrest you.

Avatar of ForeverHoldYourPiece

I've moved this post to off-topic because it's been serious derailed. 

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If you're looking for free speech go to Open Discussion forums.

Avatar of thegreat_patzer

I predict big numbers for this oddly argumentative thread...

One thing I find very odd.  Where are all the women that say there are offended, insulted, and singled out on the chess.com forum?

the forums aren't always nice places, and I think at times anybody can find the forum quite insulting at times.

so I'd wouldn't be surprised if a women felt insulted or degraded by some of the people that post... but I do see moderators do their work, and also know that the broader community is usually pretty willing to stand up, when someone says something obnoxious.

usually we mock the heck out of him!

In short, anti-women threads MAY exist, but they usually get so much flak against the OP- that they don't hit their mark and don't create an threatening environment, even for women that show their gender loudly with their avatar.

tldr?  This IS the internet, and I wouldn't mind a little more moderation- but on the whole I think we do good enough.

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WK, not all people here seem to understand-  MOST of the things on the forum are Jokes and not to be taken seriously...

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stop spoiling the fun patzer, the jokes are funny when they get taken seriously.

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have no worry kiten-Katastrophy.  the jokes never cease at cc!

and I am always amazed on how someone will take something quite ridiculous, as a very serious subject for a rant....

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"But the "women are lame" threads are logically analogous to "[race] or [religion] or [people from __] suck" threads and should simply be folded up in the rules already enforced for silly attempts at name calling."

But all you're really saying is "I don't like this thread, therefore it shouldn't exist." You're just clouding it by calling it name calling. That's just a more complex way of saying you don't like what someone said.

"but there seems to be a Gresham's Law in operation for nonsense."

You can call something nonsense but you're still just expressing your personal disapproval of the post, nothing more.

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I'm not sure I'm convinced ....

some subjects/topics ARE banned.  I can't talking about cheating- and if I do, the thread might be locked, and/or I might get muted,etc.

its Not merely about personal like or dislike.  and if categorizing a given conversation is "name-calling" - if it is againsdt TOS, it should be deleted, shouldn't it?

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Yeah, obviously there are certain pieces of information that are literally dangerous and shouldn't be disclosed. But just things that you take to be mean, even really really mean, generally fall into the category of thing that free speech is supposed to protect.

There are exceptions, and sometimes pragmatism needs to take over, but I generally find a lot of so called exceptions that people try to make for free speech to be wishy-washy.

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but again elubas, (and again and again)  -should you be allowed to go on the computer, using chess.com property (servers) and make life miserable for some innocent female chess player,  call her names, stalk her in any organizations she might be active with, and make her feel threatened and harassed.

How is this a Good use of chess.com resources?  isn't chess.com a legitamite business that wants to make people very comfortable playing chess (and talking to like-minded people)??

would you expect to harass someone in a coffee shop, who wanted to play chess and was buying coffee and bringing business to the coffee shop-- would the coffee shop have a legitimite right to ask you to leave?

. the POINT is. chess.com is a business about giving people a chance to play games of chess, without cheating and harassment.   allowing people to ruin the business in the interest of "free speech" just makes no sense to me at all.  

People can believe what they want to believe- and I can tolerate a lot of wierd opinions and personality in people, but there must be a line of what is acceptable and what is not.

and THAT line is the TOS.   thats why the site, insists you abide by it, when you join.

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