Can we get an option to play No Resign Games?

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MetalRatel wrote:

Every tournament game should end with capture of the king. Then decapitation with a micro-guillotine and a collective bonfire of captured kings at the end of each round. This would also boost the sale of chess pieces, particularly kings. Problem solved.

This would probably encourage top players to play more aggressively, so there wouldn't be as many draws. Or you could have another post-round ceremony where everyone surrounds the players with drawn games and calls them pussies.

nobodyreally
aerodarts wrote
 It is considered good manners to say check when one checks ones opponent...... not required to actual say check...

Complete nonsens, it is actually considered BAD manners if you say check.

"WTF, do you think i don't see that?" Don't disturb me if you please.

Haven't heard anybody say check in over 30 years and nor should they.

 

ps. think we were typing at the same time, FirebrandX :-)

nobodyreally
Sandrasandrita wrote:

What about OTB bullet? What do you recommend?

Recommend about what?

nobodyreally
Sandrasandrita wrote:

To say check.

You never say check. Never ever. It's unnecessary, uncalled for and even slightly insulting. If one doesn't see they're in check it's their problem.

Personally I find it disturbing.

A little off topic..

Once in a category XII tournament I had to play some cheating, bad mannered GM and before the round I instructed the arbiter to tell my opponent not to say check, offer a draw or even resign the game OTB. If he wanted to resign he can just do so by contacting the arbiter or signing the score sheet 0-1. If he is looking for a draw he may repeat the position 3 times or otherwise play out the 50 move draw rule.

I refused any physical (shake hands) or verbal contact with that person.

Ziggy_Zugzwang
FirebrandX wrote:
aerodarts wrote:

 It is considered good manners to say check when one checks ones opponent......

It's actually considered bad manners, especially in a tournament game. Only beginners feel the need to say check. It literally "goes without saying" with stronger play.

I heard that at a recent local tournament in the minor section a player either in a king hunt or queen and pawn endgame kept checking and saying "check" much to the annoyance of his opponent who eventually exploded with somelike "I can see it's check, I'm not a beginner etc etc".

This caused a disturbance. The arbiter was called. A neighbouring board told them to keep it quiet and and there was an invitation to "take it outside". I'm not too sure if the "checker" carried on verbalising. Apparently the arbiter on the day didn't tell him not to (wrongly).

I'm informed by an highly placed ECF arbiter that you shouldn't say "Check".

Scottrf
nobodyreally wrote:

Once in a category XII tournament I had to play some cheating, bad mannered GM 

Ivanov, Kramnik or Kasparov?

nobodyreally
Scottrf wrote:
nobodyreally wrote:

Once in a category XII tournament I had to play some cheating, bad mannered GM 

Ivanov, Kramnik or Kasparov?

No, just some 2575 GM. I won't mention his name. it's so long ago now, i let it go.

nobodyreally

And before you look up all the 2575 GM's it was his rating at the time (20 years ago), not now.

Scottrf

Boring, you shouldn't mention it unless you're going to name names.

RG1951
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nobodyreally
Scottrf wrote:

Boring, you shouldn't mention it unless you're going to name names.

Sorry about the boring part, but it was not about that GM. It was about the discussion to say or not say check.

Scottrf

Of course Ivanov isn't a GM, just GM strength! Doh! And no worries nobodyreally, just kidding.

NightKingx

Can you not shake hands?

I thought it was a must. If you win but not shake hands, arent you discualified?

Irontiger
SkyMarshal wrote:

Can you not shake hands?

I thought it was a must. If you win but not shake hands, arent you discualified?

If my memory serves me well, there are no such specific obligations, you just have to behave in a courteous manner.

How uncourteous not shaking hands is is up to discussion, but there is no automatic sanction for sure.

Scottrf
SkyMarshal wrote:

Can you not shake hands?

I thought it was a must. If you win but not shake hands, arent you discualified?

I thought it was a requirement at the start of a game. I remember Nigel Short being in some controversy about it.

Scottrf
Irontiger wrote:
SkyMarshal wrote:

Can you not shake hands?

I thought it was a must. If you win but not shake hands, arent you discualified?

If my memory serves me well, there are no such specific obligations, you just have to behave in a courteous manner.

How uncourteous not shaking hands is is up to discussion, but there is no automatic sanction for sure.

http://en.chessbase.com/post/short-cheparinov-handshake-game-ends-1-0

Irontiger

It looks like research trumps my memory.

http://www.fide.com/component/content/article/3-news/1746-237-behavioural-norms-of-players-in-chess-events-pb-decision.html

It is only 7 years old after all, so I could easily forget about such a recent change. Innocent

nobodyreally
Scottrf wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
SkyMarshal wrote:

Can you not shake hands?

I thought it was a must. If you win but not shake hands, arent you discualified?

If my memory serves me well, there are no such specific obligations, you just have to behave in a courteous manner.

How uncourteous not shaking hands is is up to discussion, but there is no automatic sanction for sure.

http://en.chessbase.com/post/short-cheparinov-handshake-game-ends-1-0

It seems there is now. I copied this of the FIDE website.

"Any player who does not shake hands with the opponent (or greets the opponent in a normal social manner in accordance with the conventional rules of their society) before the game starts in a FIDE tournament or during a FIDE match (and does not do it after being asked to do so by the arbiter) or deliberately insults his/her opponent or the officials of the event, will immediately and finally lose the relevant game."

Remember, my case happened over 20 years ago when there was no such rule.

The new rule i don't agree with at all. Why should I be forced to shake hands with some #&%)@ who cheated me out of 5K, because the arbiter present was an incompetent #&%)@.

I think it's  "ABnormal social manner in accordance with the conventional rules of their society"  to have to do so.

 

ps. Read that rule well !! It states "their society". Which means a muslim player could refuse to shake hands with a female player because his beliefs tell him so!

nobodyreally
kaynight wrote:

When paying to enter a Tournament, I always pay by cash, as it is rude to say cheque.

You can send me a cheque any time you want. No problem there.

Scottrf
kaynight wrote:

Please send me your bank details, and I promise to put money into your account.

To be fair, you wouldn't be able to do anything else. People put their bank details on the back of Private Eye magazine.