Can you improve your game playing daily chess, or is it just different

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NYCosmos
JustJackinIt wrote:
As someone who switched from playing only live games to now almost exclusively playing daily, I can say I have improved dramatically. Take notes on your games, write down ideas, etc, and if you're busy or distracted, come back to the game later, you have at least a day to move.

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ANOK1

what you put in you can take out , correspondence chess (daily) gives time for study of the game , and is different to live as you have more thinking time , this certainly helps if you find yourself facing a line you aint faced before , in live you call on your general chess ability in this situation , whereas daily allows you to spend a bit of time researching this new found challenge

both are good things , ability and study in developing your game ,  although the glory is of course given to the ability to come up with something new that becomes the go to study point for future daily players

 

torrubirubi

One fascinating thing about daily chess is the time you have to play endgames with the help of books. For example, I you learn how to make a draw with material down. This possibility will motivate you to have a look at your endgame books. 

Ashvapathi

Daily chess is bad for improvement specially for beginners (up to 2000).

Daily chess is useful to explore openings or understand theoretical or common endgames at higher levels. 

Generally, it is simply better to play live chess than daily chess to improve.

BlackDeathRising

I think daily chess can serve a real purpose in the quest to become a better chess player. On it's own, I don't think it will make you dramatically better at live chess. However, it can be, in my opinion, an important part of a balanced training plan, with the added benefit of being a lot of fun - at least, it's fun for me. If you don't enjoy it, skip it, but if you do, I don't think you need to deprive yourself of it.

For example, take calculation. Solving tactical puzzles entirely in your mind will do much more to improve your calculation skills otb, I've found. But analyzing your daily games by moving the pieces around the board is good practice. If you can't find good moves when moving the pieces physically, how can you expect to do it 100% in your imagination.

Same goes with evaluating positions: daily chess is good practice. Trying to evaluate with the clock running is like trying to run before you can walk, to me.

 

torrubirubi
ruhk34 wrote:

I think daily chess can serve a real purpose in the quest to become a better chess player. On it's own, I don't think it will make you dramatically better at live chess. However, it can be, in my opinion, an important part of a balanced training plan, with the added benefit of being a lot of fun - at least, it's fun for me. If you don't enjoy it, skip it, but if you do, I don't think you need to deprive yourself of it.

For example, take calculation. Solving tactical puzzles entirely in your mind will do much more to improve your calculation skills otb, I've found. But analyzing your daily games by moving the pieces around the board is good practice. If you can't find good moves when moving the pieces physically, how can you expect to do it 100% in your imagination.

Same goes with evaluating positions: daily chess is good practice. Trying to evaluate with the clock running is like trying to run before you can walk, to me.

 

I agree. It is like swimming crawl with fins. It is easier to swim and can be beneficial to improve the crawl technique, but you should also swim without fins (play live games). 

Versatilovic

Certainly. You can learn avoiding horrific opening blunders, like in this game just happened: https://www.chess.com/daily/game/216604734 - being able to think for hours or days will lower your blundering frequency significantly.

AndBell

A couple tools that are useful when playing daily for me are the board editor (little chess board button below your daily game), from here you can play out different sequences of moves from your current position to try out different variations and exchanged before you actually play a move - this is much easier than calculating everything in your head. Also when you are in the board editor you can flip the board upside down to look at it from your opponents perspective- sometimes I will do this and ask myself "okay, if I were in my opponents position right now, what move would be the most annoying to me". I am a total noob, but when I learned the board editor button my daily shot from 800 to 1100 very quickly.

Scottrf
AndBell wrote:

A couple tools that are useful when playing daily for me are the board editor (little chess board button below your daily game), from here you can play out different sequences of moves from your current position to try out different variations and exchanged before you actually play a move - this is much easier than calculating everything in your head. Also when you are in the board editor you can flip the board upside down to look at it from your opponents perspective- sometimes I will do this and ask myself "okay, if I were in my opponents position right now, what move would be the most annoying to me". I am a total noob, but when I learned the board editor button my daily shot from 800 to 1100 very quickly.

 

And here I think it’s important to differentiate between your rating improving and strength improving.

torrubirubi

Are you sure he didn't improve at all? It can be that by using the board editor he began to play more carefully, taking more time to study the position. 

Scottrf

No I’m not, I’m just saying becoming better is different to making more effort.

Someone 1,800 taking 2 days playing through all lines on the analysis board and referencing endgame books and master games is a worse player than someone the same rating that isn’t using aids or taking much time.

torrubirubi
Scottrf wrote:

No I’m not, I’m just saying becoming better is different to making more effort.

Someone 1,800 taking 2 days playing through all lines on the analysis board and referencing endgame books and master games is a worse player than someone the same rating that isn’t using aids or taking much time.

Well I I could use the same argument for a lot of things in chess: Somebody who is thinking a lot in rapid games is worst than a guy with the same rating who blitz his moves etc. 

IMKeto

I compare my chess ability to others by heighth.

ChessianHorse
When I started out here I played a lot of daily. I‘d say it was more harmful than helpful until I forced myself to stop using the analysis board and actually calculate the lines myself. I mean, you have the time, force yourself to calculate as far as you can (in concrete positions).
Scottrf
torrubirubi wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

No I’m not, I’m just saying becoming better is different to making more effort.

Someone 1,800 taking 2 days playing through all lines on the analysis board and referencing endgame books and master games is a worse player than someone the same rating that isn’t using aids or taking much time.

Well I I could use the same argument for a lot of things in chess: Somebody who is thinking a lot in rapid games is worst than a guy with the same rating who blitz his moves etc. 

Of course but that’s time management, not using things that aren’t allowed in a proper chess game.

torrubirubi
Scottrf wrote:
torrubirubi wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

No I’m not, I’m just saying becoming better is different to making more effort.

Someone 1,800 taking 2 days playing through all lines on the analysis board and referencing endgame books and master games is a worse player than someone the same rating that isn’t using aids or taking much time.

Well I I could use the same argument for a lot of things in chess: Somebody who is thinking a lot in rapid games is worst than a guy with the same rating who blitz his moves etc. 

Of course but that’s time management, not using things that aren’t allowed in a proper chess game.

Daily is a own category of chess. It is for people who do not like blitz and do not want to play long games. It has advantages, but also disadvantages as well. The main problem is the absence of calculation. I like to calculate some few things but use the editor board to check and elaborate the calculations. 

Akperzade
Scottrf написал:
torrubirubi wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

No I’m not, I’m just saying becoming better is different to making more effort.

Someone 1,800 taking 2 days playing through all lines on the analysis board and referencing endgame books and master games is a worse player than someone the same rating that isn’t using aids or taking much time.

Well I I could use the same argument for a lot of things in chess: Somebody who is thinking a lot in rapid games is worst than a guy with the same rating who blitz his moves etc. 

Of course but that’s time management, not using things that aren’t allowed in a proper chess game.

И чё это вам даёт?😐

torrubirubi
Adnan-ak wrote:
Scottrf написал:
torrubirubi wrote:
Scottrf wrote:

No I’m not, I’m just saying becoming better is different to making more effort.

Someone 1,800 taking 2 days playing through all lines on the analysis board and referencing endgame books and master games is a worse player than someone the same rating that isn’t using aids or taking much time.

Well I I could use the same argument for a lot of things in chess: Somebody who is thinking a lot in rapid games is worst than a guy with the same rating who blitz his moves etc. 

Of course but that’s time management, not using things that aren’t allowed in a proper chess game.

И чё это вам даёт?😐

Can you translate what you said to English?

Pulpofeira

I have very little time to study or play live, and playing daily regularly, this combined with a reasonable amount of OTB rated games, has been of great help to me I think.

Levon3000

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