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luigia

I just received this message, which makes me think there is a lot of cheating going on in this site, and they don't have a clue on how to handle it. Otherwise why to send such a message??

Important Message About Cheating

 

Congratulations luigia on achieving a high rating on Chess.com! You are now among the strongest players on our site.

Whenever any player reaches this level we send out this message to highlight our policies and practices related to cheating. As a strong player, you should not be overly concerned about increased exposure to cheaters: We are doing everything we can to combat cheating on this site!

We have a zero-tolerance policy on cheating, and we have developed sophisticated (and very effective) cheat-detection methods.When we catch cheaters, we close their accounts immediately and ban them from future participation on Chess.com.

If you are at all unclear on our policies related to the use of chess software or reference materials, please review our FAQ on cheating. Otherwise, just relax and enjoy the game! We will remain vigilant, working hard to minimize the impact of cheating in your games and those of other honest players on our site.

We wish you best as you continue to play and improve!

Sincerely,
Chess.com

wishiwonthatone

WOW! If you read every other word you can make out their real message. Very clever wording indeed. Makes me want to puke. I wonder why I haven't received one? I'm currently seeing a huge spike in my bullet playing, having gone from a ~700ish score to now a nose bleeding ~840ish. Hope they don't realize I'm using my 1986 2nd edition chess tricks and traps book published by Random House. I have the key pages tagged so I can get to them real quick in those two minute games. With this strategy I should be about ~913 player in just a few months. Hey - Chess.com! Where's my warning? I want one.

luigia
wishiwonthatone wrote:

WOW! If you read every other word you can make out their real message. Very clever wording indeed. Makes me want to puke. I wonder why I haven't received one? I'm currently seeing a huge spike in my bullet playing, having gone from a ~700ish score to now a nose bleeding ~840ish. Hope they don't realize I'm using my 1986 2nd edition chess tricks and traps book published by Random House. I have the key pages tagged so I can get to them real quick in those two minute games. With this strategy I should be about ~913 player in just a few months. Hey - Chess.com! Where's my warning? I want one.

Maybe because I achieved 2000 in online games, which honestly is not difficult to do, since most people, me included, make a lot of blunders.

Maybe they check only people who go beyond 2000, and that is the reason you didn't receive it. But surely there are cheaters in bullet too.

NomadicKnight

It's certainly a nice "how do ya do" though to reach 2000 and get such a greeting. Congrats on 2000 Smile

baddogno

Many previous threads on this.  It's just a computer generated message everyone gets when they hit 2,000. 

steve_bute

That's quite the upbeat congratulatory message. Do you feel warmly welcomed?

soupram

wow, some message

Noreaster

Alas! I shall never see such a message.......

luigia
steve_bute wrote:

That's quite the upbeat congratulatory message. Do you feel warmly welcomed?

It made me feel dirty, and honestly I'm not playing here anymore. So, maybe they need to fire their marketing director, because evidently doesn't understand that now, for sure, I will not give money to chess.com, while before I was thinking of subscribing.

baddogno

I don't know why you're taking this so personally Luigia.  It's just a computer generated message.  As you can see by the link, chess.com takes action on a daily basis against cheaters and this is just part of the program.

http://www.chess.com/cheating

steve_bute
baddogno wrote:

I don't know why you're taking this so personally Luigia.  It's just a computer generated message. 

It is precisely the impersonality of it that is offensive (to me).

I played CC here a few years ago (far less casually than I do now), and a few of my opponents were kicked off for cheating. One of those cases upset me because I am almost certain he was not cheating in our game. When chess.com decides you've cheated, there is no appeal that I am aware of; it's a unilateral process that brooks no opposition. This letter, which is extremely rude, fits right in.

CalPolyJohn

I don't see what the big deal is at all.  I am curious about what methods they use to determine who cheats though.

steve_bute
Sagitittyus wrote:

5 years ago · #1
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We are not discussing cheating. We are discussing the letter sent to @luigia.

johnyoudell

I can (sort of) understand that some visitors to the site using chess engines would be of concern to those who run the site but I find the attention given to it and the stance adopted in this message and on the forums odd.

I am also doubtful about the methods adopted to detect cheating because of the very long list of people who are banned. A handful I could readily understand but hundreds seems rather unlikely.

Anyway, it is not my site so the policies adopted are little or none of my business. I am grateful to those who have worked the site up, it gives me a whole lot of fun.

If the price of getting to a chess.com rating of 2000 is to receive a somewhat tactless and two faced message, that is a price I would (maybe will) happily pay.

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