Yeah, I consider chess to be a great game. It is to me a mind sport because I train my brain lol. Now do I gain muscles from it, no I don't. I live for chess. I love it. I know when I have proof. I have it now :). Thanks for the comments.
Chess as a sport???
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You know how people like to use the comparison with chess to show how much thought has gone into their game plan. Like ice hockey is just like chess on the rocks.
Why not reverse the metaphor and use sports terms to analyse games? "Here GM Winnie the Pooh has placed the Queen for an end run around the scrum being set in the centre of the board by GM Eeyore with bishop and pawns in the second row."
There are quite a few activities that are traditionally considered sports but which require minimum physical exertion or athletic ability. Bowling and golf come to mind; especially at the amateur level, people burn fewr calories than while walking at a moderate pace. Pistol or other shooting sports also require little physical exertion. These games all require skill but not physical strength or stamina. Moving a chess piece almost takes as much physical effort.
For the love of GOD!!!! Does it even matter whether they call chess a sport or not? What difference does it make? Who cares? Not me.
May 11, 2013
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Bowling involved lifting a heavy ball and throwing it down an alley. Golf involves swinging a club quite fast and hitting a ball hundreds of yards while walking for 3-5 hours in a day. Pistol shooting requires managing the recoil of your gun which is definitely more physically demanding than moving a chess piece lol.
I understand what you were trying to say pt22064, however I don't agree.
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Yeah, and here's what your wiki link states. Sport is generally recognised as activities based in physical athleticism or physical dexterity.
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The definition of sport can be made by any body, or, anybody. Many on c.c would like chess to be defined as sport because it's their hobby, and, it makes them feel better somehow.
At amateur levels, chess is not a sport. Regardless of whatever anyone chooses to cite. Sure, top players will most certainly perform better if they are in shape, but those are top players.
Playing soccer, basketball, tennis, are activities that, at the amateur level, are considered sporting activities, but, playing chess for fun, or, at an amateuer level, is not.
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chess as my hobby and as an exercises of my mind to create ideas for the next future years ! happy chess playing every time. then focus!
May 12, 2013
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sisu wrote:
I would say that if you are competing in a chess game, then it's a mind sport.
Competing should not make something a sport. Chefs on chopped compete for a prize. Would you consider cooking a sport? Children compete in the spelling bee. I guess now we have to make spelling a sport. I don't think so. I think Conflagaration said it best. Who really cares, game or sport why does it matter how we classify it?
You know astronomer999, that was very ... interesting. That is a good analagy. Why not use sports metaphors to to describe it? That is GREAT. Nice comment. I think we have someone who understands what I'm getting at here! Thanks for the comment. Play strong my friend, play strong.
white_hoyln, I agree with you. Chess is a hobby and a skill that is hard to master. I think more clearly when I play chess.
mattyf9, I put this post up to see other people opinions, not to start any problems with people. I know that chess is not a real "sport". It is however a mental sport in my eyes because you are using such strength in your mind to play the game and to study openings and such :). I am not saying that backgammon or checkers or any of those things are sports. I just wanted to get opinions for a topic that I felt was interesting. That is all.
I think I want to weigh in something else here that hasn't been brought up yet...
While I would agree with the idea that chess is not to be classified as a physically exerting competition (and thus, why many won't call it a sport), whether something is or isn't classified as a sport also involves what mindset the competitor is in.
Shift gears for a bit and consider skateboarding. It is definitely recognized as a competitive sport, and is definitely physical. Yet, if a teenager is skating down the street, or even trying the occassional kickflip off a curb, would we really say that they are training for a sport? It depends upon how serious they are taking it. There is an ill defined line as to when a skater is just playing around with their board in their driveway, and when they are training and trying to refine their skills for competition.
Back to chess, there are definitely people out there who only consider it a game because that's the only way that they have played it. They are not considering that there is a distinction between those who play it like a game, and then those who are training and trying to refine skills for competition. Competitive players definitely have a sportsman like attitude towards their matches and competitions. In that respect, yes, chess is a sport.
As said in my previous post, I think that this debate really just reveals how limiting and ill constructed the definition is of the word "sport". It is not all inclusive of what it means to be involved in serious and demanding competitions, physically exerting or otherwise. If you encounter someone who refuses to recognize chess as a sport, you might get them to concede something more important -- to achieve at chess, one must have a sportsman like attitude and devotion to the game.
bestmom wrote:
You know astronomer999, that was very ... interesting. That is a good analagy. Why not use sports metaphors to to describe it? That is GREAT. Nice comment. I think we have someone who understands what I'm getting at here! Thanks for the comment. Play strong my friend, play strong.
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Savage escribió:
Where is the physical activity that would qualify chess as a sport??
En el cerebro
En español de acuerdo a la definición, el ajedrez puede conciderarse un deporte.
deporte.
(De deportar).
1. m. Actividad física, ejercida como juego o competición, cuya práctica supone entrenamiento y sujeción a normas.
2. m. Recreación, pasatiempo, placer, diversión o ejercicio físico, por lo común al aire libre.
1. loc. adv. Por gusto, desinteresadamente. U. t. en sent. irón.
"Sport" viene del Antiguo desport francesa que significa "ocio", con la definición antigua de Inglés de todo 1300 es "cualquier cosa humanos encuentran divertido o entretenido". [4]
Otros significados incluyen juegos de azar y eventos preparados para el propósito de los juegos de azar, la caza,. Y los juegos y diversiones, incluidos los que requieren el ejercicio [5] Roget la define el deporte sustantivo como una "actividad desarrollada para la relajación y diversión" con sinónimos como desvío y recreación,
Por lo anterior y derivado solamente del significado de las palabras,
puede conciderarce el AJEDREZ, como un deporte.
Mr_Lund, your abosolutely right. I never thought of it that way before. If a skater is just skating for fun then that is good. When a skater is training for competition then they are training for a sport. You play chess for fun then you are just enjoying a game. You dedicate yourself to tournament play and reaching high goals then it could be considered something else in the mind. If anyone would like to continue this discussion please do but I think Mr_Lund answered it for us.
I personally don't think chess should be considered a sport. A fantastic (the best!) game of course, but not a sport in my books.
From a background of Soccer, Rugby Leage/Union and Basketball, I consider sports to be basic on athleticism and hand/foot eye co-ordination, not mental prowess.
Sure you could argue it's a mind sport, but like someone else posted: If you're going to call chess a sport, you may as well call backgammon, checkers, euka, poker etc sports.
Another note is that someone mentioned that if it was on TV and in a league etc it could be classified as a sport, but again I refer to poker. Poker has a league, it has a huge online and TV following and is beloved by millions. However I don't (and I'm sure many others wouldn't either) consider poker a sport. Just a terrific game which is very interesting.