Chess blindness and the Einstellung effect

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MuhammadAreez10

I got the first 3 easily. I tried the same technique for the 4th one but due to black's bishop, it was useless. I thought there must be something tricky, and to my amazement there was a bishop on b2! It was easy afterwards. Thanks leiph.

kleelof
leiph18 wrote:

I find myself often checking out "crazy" moves, just to see. "It doesn't have to be good, just interesting" is something I find myself saying often. I suppose that's my way of trying to stay flexible.

I wonder sometimes if this is how masters think. I think we've all seen it in masters games; moves that seem so far out there it is difficult to see how anyone could find it.

I have one C.c friend who says that during Online Chess games he even looks at some of the more absurd moves possible. It seems to have paid for him.

I, on the other hand, get caught in this trap of thinking something is not possible because of first impressions. Here is an example from a recent game of mine:

I totally missed the mate in 1. If I had had a "check 'crazy' moves' policy, I would have seen this, I'm sure.

MuhammadAreez10

Lee, Qxg7# is pretty straightforward.

kleelof
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kleelof
MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

Lee, Qxg7# is pretty straightforward.

You lose too.

Qxg7 loses the queen.

Really makes me happy to know I'm not the only one to miss the winning move. Smile

leiph18

Deflection and clearance themed tactics really drill into your head to check any capture or threat no matter how insane it looks at first glance.

They also make you feel really brilliant when you solve one ;)

Maybe try a few of those?

MuhammadAreez10

It isn't that hard to distinguish sarcasm from reality. I was joking.

kleelof
leiph18 wrote:

Deflection and clearance themed tactics really drill into your head to check any capture or threat no matter how insane it looks at first glance.

They also make you feel really brilliant when you solve one ;)

Maybe try a few of those?

Yeah. Maybe so.

The really funny thing is I played Bxg7 knowing I could then capture the h-pawn and start a winning attack.

kleelof
MuhammadAreez10 wrote:

It isn't that hard to distinguish sarcasm from reality. I was joking.

Oh...I see...haha.....ha..........ha......h

leiph18

Yeah that's frustrating, but you did see a different winning idea.

Sometimes the most difficult positions to be accurate in are the ones where we have a few options... hey, that ties in with the theme of this topic ;)

Elubas

Always visualize what it would be like for a recapture to occur. That's the whole logic of "protecting pieces": If you try to take one of my pieces, I will play the recapturing move, and that leads to a good position for me. Often works well enough, except when a recapture opens up your king! Recaptures are not the end all be all, and sometimes taking a piece will allow the opponent to do something even better, so always visualize the position after the recapture before making a judgment. Here you would find that ...gxh6 results in an open diagonal towards the king.

Because recaptures don't always work or aren't always good is why you need to consider all captures, even ones that allow a recapture.

ChristopherYoo
hayabusahayate16 wrote:
richie_and_oprah wrote:

Pattern recognition (memory of kerns) is perhaps the single most important skill to have in order to be a chess player.  Some people have a neural network that is able to record and access patterns with maximum efficiency and these people can often become very strong chess players.  If the nueral network is not already wired then crunching thousands of patterns when one is young has a chance of wiring it for the task of doing it onsight under time constraints like one need do at a tournament.

This is why older people (40+) ain't gonna get much better at chess regardless of the work they put in unless they already neurologically wired properly. 

Good thing every healthy human brain is wired for pattern recognition. Tactics arent the reason adults have a hard time progressing, it's the abstract concepts that hold adults back. Children learn these concepts easily because of neuroplasticity and the young brains ability to create new pathways for new things. it's more complex than that but thems the basics. It's the main reason they teach you so much basic general knowledge at a young age, so that the pathways are excercised allowing you to learn more specific things that build upon these pathways as you get older.

That's interesting, but goes against my personal observation.  Most kids play very tactically.  Moreover, strategy, beyond the very basics, is something they learn later. 

leiph18

I agree, it's usually the opposite.

Youth players, sometimes even very strong youth players, miss simple strategic things. Meanwhile adults, sometimes very experienced adults, miss very simple tactics.

Elubas

Yup :)

SilentKnighte5

Qxh6# isn't a "crazy move policy".  It's examining a check/capture.  That's pretty standard.

kleelof
SilentKnighte5 wrote:

Qxh6# isn't a "crazy move policy".  It's examining a check/capture.  That's pretty standard.

NOt for all of us.

Amelia

Great thread! It took me a little while to get #4. Thanks for sharing this!

Elubas

It's a simple move, but it can be missed.

TheAdultProdigy
leiph18 wrote:

When given the 3rd problem, participants failed to solve it in the best way because they stuck to the pattern used in the first two. 

In Josh Waitzkin's "The Art of Learning," I think this is what he means by "coming back to the moment."  He talks about not working through mere mechanical calculations.  In addition to his book, he talks about it in a tutorial on the Chessmaster GM edition, where his oppenent has hung a piece in, I think, the Junior World Championship's final (championship) game, and he didn't see it!  He says that, sometimes, we need to stop thinking, get out of our train of thought, simply look, and begin seeing the position anew --emphasis on seeing.  It's interesting stuff.

leiph18

Definitely agree with that. I think whether consciously or unconsciously, experienced players develop or discover mental tricks to help them do this on demand.

I know I have my own little process. I used to get up from the board and walk around, or close my eyes for a few seconds to clear my mind. Now I can pretty much hit the reset button mentally without having to look away.

But fatigue makes it harder. I remember one game where I was working very hard at the board keeping up with a stronger opponent. Later in the game he hung a pawn and I 100% completely missed it. When reviewing the game at first I thought I must have recorded the moves wrong. I couldn't believe it.