Chess.com or Lichess?

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both

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Magikstone wrote:

Hey, anyone remember yahoo chess? I started out using yahoo chess. Then moved on to chess.com. Currently I am using lichess because it is more cell phone friendly. But if I had a regular computer both sites would be good.

Yahoo chess had a terrible design. I played six games there.

Before chessdotcom had live, ICC, Playchess, and even FICS (a free server) were the places to play. Chessdotcom solved the problems of making live chess work on a website. Before then, quality play was available only through servers.

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Yahoo Chess had so many flaws ... but it had one thing that I liked: public tables.

In the Social Lounge, there was often a 2-minute table set up by one of the regulars. Players would hang out there, and take turns playing, watching, and chatting. Winner stays seated. The loser vacates the other seat and becomes one of the watchers, while the next person in line sits.

It was quite fun. Probably the only thing I miss about Yahoo Chess ...

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Yahoo chess was fun. I remember as your rating got higher it would be associated by a certain color. With my current skills I wonder how I would fare if I were to go back in time and go on Yahoo. Yes, there were regulars. And a public chat. I think red meant you were a strong player. There was a lot of intense rivalries among the Yahoo greats. Reputations. It was fun. Too bad I was a beginner at that time. They took out yahoo so I was forced to go to chess.com. It is interesting to see how chess.com evolved.

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What is yahoo chess? Never heard of it

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Yahoo Chess popped up in the late 90s, when the internet was still relatively new. The Yahoo! page was one of the few main websites of the internet, in the beginning ...

They had a Games section with different games for people to play socially, like Checkers, Chess, Billiards, etc ...

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Lichess UI is terrible, can't see anything there.
Also, 300/400 more points for everyone.

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Khnemu_Nehep wrote:

Lichess UI is terrible, can't see anything there.
Also, 300/400 more points for everyone.

Try dark mode... Lichess is pretty dark so it might not work well for some people it works fine for me

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MaetsNori wrote:

Yahoo Chess popped up in the late 90s, when the internet was still relatively new. The Yahoo! page was one of the few main websites of the internet, in the beginning ...

They had a Games section with different games for people to play socially, like Checkers, Chess, Billiards, etc ...

Oh ok that's why I thought I knew every chess website but turns out this is 40 years old lol

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chesssblackbelt wrote:

What is yahoo chess? Never heard of it

https://www.edcollins.com/chess/yahoo-vs-servers.htm

Old site. Describes what I wrote above in greater detail.

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Yahoo.chess and Pogo predated the current chess sites. They were notorious for having cheaters. Players could set it up so that their chess programs would play their games. In those days, the programs were not very good and could not compete at a fast time control—say, four minutes or less. I used to play a lot of speed games and I could tell when a new chess program came out, because I had to move to a faster time control. Eventually, the profs became good enough so that they could win the bullet games. At that point, I left that site.

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Although there are cheaters in every site, cheaters on yahoo normally had very high ratings. As I was a mere beginner, I didn't have to worry about cheating that way. If you were truly that strong where you were allowed to be play against high rated yahoo players with colors red, then you must be a very strong player.

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BigChessplayer665 wrote:
JustALifeOfChess wrote:

Lichess:

  • Completely free.
  • Can play unlimited games (against bots and humans) and puzzles (Streak, Storm, Racer and Daily Puzzle).
  • Has a lot of learning material with basic tools like an analysis board.
  • Has a fair community.
  • Has Insights with less information.
  • Way less customizable.


Chess.com:

Free:

  • Needs a paid subscription for all tools.
  • Has ads.
  • Allows Unlimited games.
  • Allows 1 game review per day
  • Has basic analysis tools.
  • Allows 5 puzzles per day. 

Paid:

  • Contains the benefits (only) of the free version with:
  • Unlimited Puzzles with (Rush, Battle and Daily Puzzle).
  • Also has lot of learning material with more tools like game review which includes practice puzzles and key concepts for you to learn and also highlights the mistakes and helps you to see where you've gone wrong.
  • Has Insights about a lot of information.

    General Differences (advantages):
  • Chess.com has way more customizability. The page is up to your creativity (From the background, to profile picture, to board, to pieces. You can even set up your home display page in your desired fashion).
  • Chess.com has more settings. For example: A blocked members page, A following members page.
  • Allows connected account (very handy feature).
  • Allows more ways to connect (socially).
  • Has chess.com Beta.
  • Chess.com has a standard way of catching cheaters. Although the site is full of them they probably won't last long. However on lichess, even if there are cheaters, they could stay for a long time.

Your forgetting the fact that even though cheaters "stay longer " lichess puts them in a cheater pool

Your also forgetting that lichess has overall less cheaters than chess.com

Yes, Lichess does have less cheaters but, the tools for finding them out isn't that advanced.
In chess.com Game review can easily highlight the accuracy, good moves and everything you would need to know but on lichess you don't have those options. Only a analysis board. How would moderators manually check each game or make a bot to find out cheaters?

And how would that ever be efficient for the cheaters now who don't always play the best move?

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Magikstone wrote:

Although there are cheaters in every site, cheaters on yahoo normally had very high ratings. As I was a mere beginner, I didn't have to worry about cheating that way. If you were truly that strong where you were allowed to be play against high rated yahoo players with colors red, then you must be a very strong player.

All the comments on Yahoo chess are good but maybe we should remove it from our talk?

Yahoo chess now:

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i have a question, i have a similar topic before why i only got a few comments?

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SleepyAmelia wrote:

I would always say chess.com but after losing my last two games because chess.com randomly disconnects me while I have perfect connection to the website (only disconnect from the game itself) I might just move to lichess tbh.

That's a server issue the servers probably laggy on your end(or chess.coms ) even if the connection is fine thats mostly why I only play bullet on lichess the occasional 3 second lagg spike

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nice

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lol

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Chess.com needs variants on mobile.