chess.com should have takebacks

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user800234035

We should have takebacks because everybody makes mistakes and sometimes people are winning but they blunder. Everybody should get 5 takebacks a day, except the rich and people with chess.com memberships, because they have greater opportunities in learning chess. Members will be penalised on how much they spend on their membership and the rich will be penalised based on their income.  Also, there should be a feature giving away takebacks and buying takebacks at the price of a takeback per american dollar. If enough people agree, then I will start a petition. 

Chess.com should give me unlimited lifetime takebacks for starting this idea. Fide should use it too.

user800234035
IMBacon wrote:

Challenge someone, make it an unrated game, and then turn on Allow Takebacks.

 

There should be takebacks in random rated games

user800234035

And in uscf events too

Laskersnephew

Don't think so small! We should have unlimited takebacks in real life! Just like in the movie "Groundhog Day"

Martin_Stahl
Kenny-Ji wrote:
IMBacon wrote:

Challenge someone, make it an unrated game, and then turn on Allow Takebacks.

 

There should be takebacks in random rated games

 

In rated games, no, there shouldn't be, especially for  things like FIDE or USCF. Otherwise people would want to take back every blunder they make and that would make rating systems pretty meaningless and drag out games.

 

In casual games, go for it. Or use clock move in casual, instead of touch move. In rated blitz or quick/rapid, clock move can also be acceptable, if advertised in advance, but not for online.

Pulpofeira

I sincerely hope this is a troll post.

Ziryab
Kenny-Ji wrote:

We should have takebacks because everybody makes mistakes and sometimes people are winning but they blunder.


Boys, especially. That's why Nimzovitszche wrote a little pamphlet on prophylaxis. Prevention is the best cure for unwanted consequences.

Nwap111

Take backs weaken your ability to visualize and analyze. Further, it takes away you owning your mistake.  You made the mistake, admit  it and learn from it.  Players who regular use takebacks are the ones who make the game losing errors in OTB chess.  Some even ask their opponent, can they take the move back.  Not allowed in OTB chess.  Likewise, taking back your move on here develops the same bad habit..

 

As Ziryab mentioned, in analysis of  played  games, nothing wrong with taking back your move.  Try another idea.  Listen to another player's thought, share ideas.

Pikelemi

I totally agree! At any point in the game both players shall be able to claim a takeback as far as back to the beginning of the game. If a player is checkmate and reject to use his takeback option both players shall count as winnes of the game and both shall receive 1000 rating points and a GM title if they do not already have one

MustangMate

Not original in the least. Why the limited, narrow thinking? Hell, just simply allow Game takebacks for premium members, as if the game never happened. Should be incentive enough to generate the next 10M sign-ups.  cry.png

MustangMate

Players usually enable move verification in daily games. But if an obvious mouse slip is agreed by players, then moves can be "taken back" as long as it was not a pawn move. This is artificially done by moving pieces back to original squares and recreating the position before the slip.

Ziryab

Reminds me of a couple of old guys in the nursing home with Parkinson's playing checkers. They've been at it three days, move every few minutes, and yet the checkers seem to be in the same position they were yesterday.

Nwap111

Lol.Me too.

Squidward18Q
Ziryab wrote:

Reminds me of a couple of old guys in the nursing home with Parkinson's playing checkers. They've been at it three days, move every few minutes, and yet the checkers seem to be in the same position they were yesterday.

 

Wow, you're older than you look Ziryab...

oregonpatzer

Back in the day, I played maybe 90-100 Yahoo chess games with my closest internet friend of all time, sadly now deceased.  I won all but two of them, which were draws.  In one of the draws, she just played solid chess.  In the other, I made a horrible blunder when I was briefly distracted by somebody else sending me an erotic instant message, leading to a dead-lost position.  She asked me why I moved there, and when I told her, she demanded that I take the move back...

"I'm sorry Suze.  We don't take back moves in my chess culture, we live with the consequences of our bad decisions."

And I fought back from the lost position to hold a draw.

Caesar49bc
Pulpofeira wrote:

I sincerely hope this is a troll post.

+1

Takebacks is the worst thing possible. FICS allows takebacks, and it's the most annoying thing. I haven"t used FICS in years. I had it set so I would auto refuse takebacks, but then I'd get pestered why I was refusing takebacks.

Thre real problen with allowing takebacks is that low level players don't have an incentive to improve their ratings by focusing on blunders. They're in denial about how bad they play, thinkings they'll eventually get better at spotting blunders. But that day never comes  because the takeback command is so useful that they will just get to that problem (of spotting blunders better) another day.

Blundering is huge thing, even for intermediate level players... in fact a LOT of intermediate level games are decided by someone blundering... only it takes a bit of helping to prod your oppenent into a blunder with higher rated games. So its more tactical to get your opponent to blunder, with higher rated opponents.

 

user800234035
Pulpofeira wrote:

I sincerely hope this is a troll post.

No this is serious.

Ziryab
Squidward18Q wrote:
Ziryab wrote:

Reminds me of a couple of old guys in the nursing home with Parkinson's playing checkers. They've been at it three days, move every few minutes, and yet the checkers seem to be in the same position they were yesterday.

 

Wow, you're older than you look Ziryab...

 

I introduced chess to Europe in 822.

AlCzervik

ah, that was you that beat me in paris. i didn't recognize you with the beard.

Ziryab

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