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ModernCalvin
10curtainj wrote:

still seems a tiny bit unsportsmanlike...maybe I'm just too soft lol


I think it's the way some people approach the rules that make them seem unsportsmanlike, being rude to the opponent, and just waiting for the opponent to make a mistake and punish him or her for it because that's the only way they can win.

But in practice, touch-move is a very elegant way to play chess. It looks cool and avoids all sorts of ambiguities.

Plus, you have to draw the line somewhere. I was playing in a casual, class tournament in elementary school, and one of my opponents was so nervous when he was moving his Queen, he would sometimes be picking up my pieces (the Knight in particular) and moving it around and testing whether or not it could capture his Queen or not . . . I let it go, but still, this would cause all sorts of problems in regular, tournament play.

As others have pointed out, there would be all sorts of arguments regarding improperly placed pieces, "My Knight was on d5, your Rook was on c6!" "No, Your Knight was on d6 and my Rook is on c7!" [board being knocked over and pieces scattered] "Oh yeah guess what, now your Rook is on refrigerator 5!"

In casual games, I'm very soft too. And I hate to win off of a simple blunder. But in a tournament, everyone has to follow the rules.

Meadmaker

I usually don't like to win on technicalities, and I usually hate rules lawyers who come up with ways to win even though they have clearly lost.  However, this doesn't seem like one of those situations.  Your description doesn't quite match the diagram, but I think what he did was grab your pawn while touching his queen, or perhaps he picked up the queen, and touched the pawn with it?

Either way, he clearly expressed his desire to take your pawn, and moved the piece, then realized it was a blunder, and wanted to take it back.  Bad luck.  He was too late.  He didn't see the mistake until after he was committed.

I sure wish I could take back a lot of similar moves I've made in tournament Chess, but I can't.  In this case, I say there was absolutely nothing unsportsmanlike.

popskirk

One other reason for the touch rule is that chess is a game of logic....a mind game, if you will. The game is played out in the mind....not by "trial and error" moving the pieces. I DO move the pieces....but only in my mind. Once I touch a piece, I am technically bound to MOVE that piece. Doesn't matter WHERE I move it, but I MUST move it. I refuse to play with people who won't agree to the touch rule.

Marcus_Ps2

Yah i was at that game.... but yeah you did the right thing... if you had let him take it back or offered him a draw it would have been unfair because his error would have gone unpunished, chess is not a game of trial and error, its a game of logic, the same rule applies to every1 and its likely that he or any other player would have done the same in this position-

pizzaking

In this case you did the right thing. 

Another aspect of touch move and touch-take that I don't think has been mentioned is that what if you gasped with shock/pleasure when your opponent touched your pawn to take it and only then realized his error.  You really think he should be able to undo his move?  I don't think a draw would have been appropriate in this case. 

10curtainj

haha cheers marcus

blackrabbitrabid
10curtainj wrote:

 

 


Would love to see the notation of this game. Looks wicked.