Islam is not a monolithic religion. There is no Islamic "Pope" who decides for everybody. Instead, religious questions are settled by each "school" or sect individually... so some Islamic sects consider Chess to be haram, while others consider it to be halal.
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Catholic altar boy here.
First. Chess was never associated with gambling as far as I know.
Cards, dominoes (another form of cards), maybe backgammon which involves a dice, dice definitely. Those are associated with gambling.
Western Civilizations do not have a monopoly on religion, although it thinks it does, especially the Judeo-Christian-Islam lineage.
Pre-Christian "religion" is Greek Mythology. Read Bulfinch's Mythology. Good stuff.
The roots of religion came from India, also where chess came from.
China. I think China has the greatest religion, philosophy. Taoism. Wudan stuff, not Shaolin stuff, that's Hinduism-Buddhism. It's Yin and Yang, Black and White. Chess is the perfect example of the fight between Yin and Yang. Chess is religion and philosophy. My Chinese roots said so.
Chinese-Japanese
Karate-do
Judo
Aikido
The "do" is 道.
道 = Way, Religion
Do-jo is a religious term. The place to practice the Way.
The martial arts of Japan, which came from China, which is rooted in Taoism, are religious practices.
Chess is a martial art, a Way of life and a religion. It is Taoism. The fight between Black and White.
JamesClrrke wrote:
Sorry to virtue signal, but two whole years spent in Afghanistan and nearly two years in Iraq, and when I hear ‘Islam’, all I think of is homosexual pedophilia, child sex slaves (mostly males)…..the signs of it we saw, stopped, and kids we removed from elder males…..I don’t think of chess. I’m not even barely religious….but ‘islam’ is a cancer….as moreso than any of the others….
Tell me you know nothing about Islam without telling me you know nothing about Islam.
JamesClrrke wrote:
I’m not even barely religious….
Again, Catholic altar boy here.
Again, Greek mythology.
You are so wrong. Everyone is religious. Everyone worship something.
Americans worship The God of War, straight from Greek Mythology.
What did you bring into Afghanistan and Iraq?
A gun . . . to kill with.
long_quach wrote:
JamesClrrke wrote:
I’m not even barely religious….
You are so wrong. Everyone is religious.
Americans worship The God of War, straight from Greek Mythology.
Americans sacrifice their first born to the God of War in
Afghanistan
Iraq
Vietnam
Korea
The list goes on and on . . .
long_quach wrote:
Catholic altar boy here.
The roots of religion came from India, also where chess came from.
The word
sura: a chapter of the Koran
came from Sanskrit.
The Monkey King et al. helped a monk bring Buddhist sutras [scriptures] from their "Journey to the West" back to China.
we have a cognate of "sutra"
suture: stitching.
stitching is how hardback books are bound (not glued like paperback books).
sutra is associated with books.
the word "sura" came from the word "sutra".
long_quach wrote:
道 = Way, Religion
Do-jo is a religious term. The place to practice the Way.
That's what they are.
The Shaolin Temple.
The Wudan Temple.
Chess is a religion, by definition.
religion
has the word
lig
in it.
lig as in
ligament.
Ligaments connect bones together.
That which connects people is religion, by definiton.
pcwildman wrote:
As-salamu alaykum.
That is a calque of the Hebrew "Shalom aleichem".
It's part of my Judeo-Christian heritage as a Catholic altar boy.
JamesClrrke wrote:
I’m not even barely religious….
Doesn't America try to make Iraq and Afghanistan
"in its own image?" - Genesis.
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I think Peace be upon you is a nice sentiment in any language. In America we say, "Police be not upon you." Be Here Now.
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The Muslims and the Jews of Syria(?), or one of the Middle Eastern countries, didn't want to get genetic tests done, for whatever reasons. When the results came back it turned out they were all from the same root stock. They were cousins. We all came out of Africa. We are all Brothers and Sisters on this planet.
mar1bhs wrote:
Saudi Arabia's grand mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh once ruled that chess is forbidden in Islam, saying it encourages gambling and is a waste of time.
That happened in Christian history too. Christianity tried to dominate all culture [to an extent it should, and to an extent it succeeded.]
Remember what I said about Taoism? The Fight between Yin and Yang, Black and White?
Black and White are opponents, but they are also partners. That's the genius of Taosim, and it is the Truth. One can create the other, the Yin and Yang.
Most ironic is that the Mormons, the most "pure-itanical" Christian sect helped created The Gambling Capital of the World. If you understand Taoism, you would not be surprised.
pcwildman wrote:
We are all Brothers and Sisters on this planet.
Brothers murdering each other is a honored tradition. There are many examples from Cain and Abel to Stannis and Renly.
magipi wrote:
pcwildman wrote:
We are all Brothers and Sisters on this planet.
Brothers murdering each other is a honored tradition. There are many examples from Cain and Abel to Stannis and Renly.
Very good.
Someone remembered his "catechism".
magipi wrote:
pcwildman wrote:
We are all Brothers and Sisters on this planet.
Brothers murdering each other is a honored tradition. There are many examples from Cain and Abel to Stannis and Renly.
All of the ruling class of the nations in World War I, are all blood relatives. That is what makes it even more horrific.
Remember what i said about Greek Myths? Greek tragedies are full of relatives killing each other in all combinations. Irene Papas stars in all of them.
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Muslim scholars tend to place chess, a skill-based game, in a different category from games of chance, such as dice, but frown upon it if it distracts a person from performing the five daily prayers. Placing bets under any circumstances is forbidden.
Saudi Arabia's grand mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz al-Sheikh once ruled that chess is forbidden in Islam, saying it encourages gambling and is a waste of time.