Chess in the era of Video Games

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JPtheK9
 

On the contrary, just as countless fan afficionados have dedicated themselves to a film franchises, many intellectual prodigies have dedicated themselves to video games. The number of bright minds in this world is limited and introducing a new test of brilliance introduces competition to Chess.

Also, yeah, Starcraft in no way "mostly relies on clicking really fast." In many ways, it's like playing a stretched out bullet (if that makes sense). Every move counts drastically - a simple click could make you lose the battle - but you don't have the time to analyze your move deeply.

For example, in Chess, which I am by all means not an expert in, one must consider the effects of moving a piece. What am I attacking? What am I leaving defenseless? What am I opening? etc..

Similarly, in SC2, one must consider the effects of expanding. What are the rewards? Risks? Do I have enough resources to support proper army development after this investment? etc.. Even the placing of a mere Pylon has its many considerations. Will this create a choke and give me a positional advantage? Will it properly accomodate my buildings? How vulnerable is it? That's not even to mention the sneaky strategies like building a Dark Shrine... Proxy Pylon...

tl;dr: Strategically, Chess and Starcraft are very comparable to each other. I guess it really is a matter of taste but I can speak for myself when I say that the majority of vital, young people raised in our socity of rapid communication don't mind clicking a lot.

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ANOK1

Regicide for chess in 40,000 AD       

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ByeAll2016

The funny thing about Chess.

If you were describing it to another person.

It's a real time, multiplayer (2)

strategy game, set in the Middle Ages with moving Castles, and a Queen that could kill everyone in the game.

That person would run out to buy and play it!

JPtheK9
EinMal wrote:

The funny thing about Chess.

If you were describing it to another person.

It's a real time, multiplayer (2)

strategy game, set in the Middle Ages with moving Castles, and a Queen that could kill everyone in the game.

That person would run out to buy and play it!

It's turn-based, not real time. The game doesn't progress based on time, but rather actions or turns.

SongbirdGarden

Chess isn't a video game, it's far from a video game, if anything it's a video game's oppisate.  Chess develops your mind and video games are bad for your brain. Chess develops logical thinking, and yet the whole ideah of kings and queens and wars and battles sounds like a video game, it's like commanding a real army! The difference? Your not! 

hhnngg1

I predict that hordes of these real time MOBA-type video game playing youths will turn to seriously chess playing in their later years. 

 

A huge problems with these video games is that the rules continually change, and skills rapidly become obsolete. That's fine if you're a 12 year old seeking the latest and greatest, but gets old after you're on your 10th game seeking some sort of mastery, and the moment you get 'good', the game or the technology platform is obsolete.

 

I used to be a diehard video gamer myself, but after becoming an adult, and being frustrated with the lack of true mastery in these games due to the above, I found chess - the perfect amalgam of high-tech (computers!) and low-tech (no computers!), connected (internet play rules!) and personal (OTB play is better!), and a vastly enormous literature worthy of serious long-term study. 

blastforme
one answer to the question is pretty simple.. it's blitz and to a greater extent, bullet chess. These are the 'live action' video game version of chess. I suck at both, but I was never a hotshot at video games either. (I don't think donkey kong counts!) I used to play Warcraft 3 back in university - I love that game.. but I realized how friggin good the kids were when I finally got in 'battlenet'... :oP Still fun though..
BigKingBud
JPtheK9 wrote:

Chess is a beautiful game  Certainly, it does not use technology to the fullest ...

Actually one of the main proponents to computer tech development, has ALWAYS been 'developing' a computer that can play chess as well as a human.  A feat that they are still working on perfecting.

DrCheckevertim

You bring up a good point. Chess computers can easily beat humans now, but they do not "play" as well as a human. They actually do not "play" chess at all. To play chess, you must be human, not a computer.

OAlienChessO

To play as  a human you need to be a human  .  A machine only could to imitate human logic or human feelings so maybe in the future , the robots can understand that a move like f3-g4-h4 are very annoying t0 the human mind .  This is the first step.  The second one is find the truth in a position without calculation, you know in that kind of positions where there are 12 or more good moves with the same evaluation

BigKingBud

It's interesting too IMO, because computers are SOOOO much faster at calculating that humans(that it is RIDICULOUS).  Chess is definitely a game of calculation, but it also a game of vision(or however you wanna say it).  But, you'd still think they could get those computers to envision the game more similar to a grandmaster than they can.  I mean, we are talking about chess computers that are on par with the power of Watson, so IDK.

WorkingHen

A German named Dr. Emanuel Lasker retained the Champion title for the most time: 26 years and 337 days! And me with my friend Fb2mate want to try it. 

leemeadowcroft
I've been a gamer for 30+ years and will always go back to it, but those games change constantly, you can never set out to gain any sort of in depth understanding or gain any sort of mastery before the game and the players move on.

Often you're finding the most effective solutions to work around how the game is programmed and sometimes it's bugs and glitches.

Chess, in it's simplicity, it's basic and unchanging set of rules, it's undying popularity and the ability to learn, improve and eventually master it, is the superior game by far. Chess is also a mental game and not based on physical skill, so playable by all at any age or physical ability, a level playing field.
Verbeena

I grew up as a gamer and got quite good at a few games during my younger years. Today chess interest me more. Why? There are several reasons, lots of them are already mentioned in this thread.

* I enjoy play OTB. It feels good to get away from the computer for a while, to move physical pieces and share the experience of playing this game with another human being that sits in front of me. It feels more real.

* Computer games constantly change and my interest in learning a new game and become good at it is getting diminished. Chess remains the same and i can spend a lifetime learning and improving at it.

* Chess has a huge depth in it. It involves logic, calculation, intuition, psychology, memory, pattern recognition, strategy, tactic, concentration/mental endurance etc. Few computer games can match that.

* Chess is also remarkably simple. It's just a wooden board and wooden pieces. No electricity, no mechanics, no fuel is required to run it. You could make a chess set using stone age tools! I just love when simplicity and brilliancy gets combined like that.

mansimas

If you talk about CHess video game, there is a browser game armygrid - chess related MMO-RTS-RPG with tower defense and territory expansion.

So, its not purely Chess, but like a chess representation how it could look in some other dimension world, where armies are represented as Chess figures and move like Chess figures..