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pauljacobson

There is a famous quote that chess is 99% tactics and I was interested to hear your opinions on this.

Obviously a huge part of being a good chess player is determined by your tactical skills but just how much do you think it plays a part?

I can speak from my own experience that my chess rating increases very quickly the more and the better I am at the tactics trainer here on chess.com.

Vertwitch

I agree!

https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-is-99-tactics

madratter7

I personally don't think so. Tactics are very very important. But how do you choose what to pursue and what not to pursue? Should you swap that knight for a bishop or not? Do you go for the cheapo or put your rook on an open file. In most games, many of your moves are improving your position, not directly making a tactical threat, responding to one etc.

torrubirubi
Tactics is not only important to know how to sac something in order to get advantage, but also to prevent your opponent to do the same.
However, usually you will find few situations where you can make a combination in the games. Much more important are things related to pawns, right exchanges, explore weaknesses, etc.
madratter7

 From the referenced article, "Even though he was an excellent tactician he understood positional play very well. Also he was a good analyst and brilliant composer." (Emphasis added).

 

I think part of the reasons some high level people maintain this is simply that the positional aspects of play have become automatic for them. It is like breathing. They don't have to think about it much. Nonetheless, they are doing it constantly.

 

For example Simon Williams, GingerGM, is a highly aggressive, very tactical player. But if you watch his videos, he is often thinking about best placement of pieces, when to swap and when not, the kind of endings he will be getting, etc. In other words he actually is very positional as well.

IMKeto

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And how do you get a "superior" position?  By knowing strategy.

pauljacobson

But tactics surely must be the aspect of the game that is the most unlearnable and the aspect that requires the most talent? I mean surely everyone can master some basic tactical ideas but when it comes to a certain level usually one has to be very talented in order to do the calculation required in order to complete the tactic?

 

I mean positional play is much more learnable and doesn't require calculation in the same way.

IMKeto
  • The tactician knows what to do when there is something to do; whereas the strategian knows what to do when there is nothing to do. - Gerald Abrahams
Arun_M_Vetrivel

Well said and I agree!

DetectiveRams
pauljacobson wrote:

But tactics surely must be the aspect of the game that is the most unlearnable and the aspect that requires the most talent? I mean surely everyone can master some basic tactical ideas but when it comes to a certain level usually one has to be very talented in order to do the calculation required in order to complete the tactic?

 

I mean positional play is much more learnable and doesn't require calculation in the same way.

Positional play isn't always about calculation. For me, it is far harder to play positionally. When you are in a closed position, what do you do? That is the part where you think positionally. In a tactical situation, there is always a certain way to make a big difference to material, position etc. However, positional play is all about subtly improving your position while restricting your opponent. It is a form of art to be able to know how to best coordinate and improve your position, and few people have that skill.

drmrboss

Do Tactics check when you have extra time.

A GM playing almost without tactics on 1-2 mins/ game can win most amateurs on 1-2 hours/ game.

Why? Understanding of chess/ position/ intution  are  x10 times more important than tactics.

pauljacobson
drmrboss skrev:

Do Tactics check when you have extra time.

A GM playing almost without tactics on 1-2 mins/ game can win most amateurs on 1-2 hours/ game.

Why? Understanding of chess/ position/ intution  are  x10 times more important than tactics.

Well yeah I think that is partly true in the quick games, however if you watch a player like Nakamura playing blitz or even bullet here on chess.com he always seems to win due to being tactically superior. 

Preggo_Basashi
pauljacobson wrote:

There is a famous quote that chess is 99% tactics and I was interested to hear your opinions on this.

It leaves out too much, so it doesn't really mean anything. For examples does it mean 99% of games are won with tactics? 99% of analysis is tactics? 99% of critical positions are tactics?

The only thing it manages to communicate is "tactics are really important"

 

 

pauljacobson wrote:

Obviously a huge part of being a good chess player is determined by your tactical skills but just how much do you think it plays a part?

In spite of many people claiming otherwise, not much. Of course well rounded chess players will use tactics to beat peers, but without being well rounded it doesn't count for much. As a different poster pointed out, the famous Fischer quote about tactics come from a better position in the first place.

 

 

pauljacobson wrote:

I can speak from my own experience that my chess rating increases very quickly the more and the better I am at the tactics trainer here on chess.com.

That's how it works in the beginning. And especially for people who work on their tactics last (like Michael De La Mesa) solving puzzles can have a dramatic effect on your rating.

But if it's all you do, you'll eventually hit roadblocks, and have to go back and learn all the stuff you'd been ignoring.

 

Preggo_Basashi
pauljacobson wrote:
drmrboss skrev:

Do Tactics check when you have extra time.

A GM playing almost without tactics on 1-2 mins/ game can win most amateurs on 1-2 hours/ game.

Why? Understanding of chess/ position/ intution  are  x10 times more important than tactics.

Well yeah I think that is partly true in the quick games, however if you watch a player like Nakamura playing blitz or even bullet here on chess.com he always seems to win due to being tactically superior. 

Meh, not really.

I've seen him hang rooks and queens, but his GM opponents miss the opportunity. I've seen Erik Hansen playing live online, curse at himself for missing simple tactics vs HIkaru.

 

The point is if you put someone under enough pressure strategically, then they'll blunder 1, 2, or 3 move tactics even if they're GMs. That's why it's misleading to tell people things like "only study tactics until 2000" It's a load of crap.

 

In the 2013 world chess championship match, there was a double blunder. IIRC Carlsen blundered a pawn to a simple 2-3 move tactic, and Anand missed it. Because they were busy worrying about other elements (and I assume a championship match is psychologically difficult)...

but anyway, the point is clear, it's not really all about tactics.

Preggo_Basashi

We could say tactics are necessary, but not sufficient.

IMKeto
Take a position like this.  It illustrates some basics of pawn structure.  Black to move.  Should black play ...e5, or ...c5 for a pawn break?  
Unless you have some understanding of strategy, and pawn structure, you might think it doesn't matter.  The e5 pawn break is preferable, as it gets rid of whites queenside pawn majority, where as the ...c5 pawn break, trades down into a 3 -2 pwn majority, where white can try to create a passed pawn in the endgame.  
 
Where in this position, you can kind of figure out there are some tactics to be had due to the following:
King in the middle.
Threat of open lines in the middle.
Misplaced pieces .

 

pauljacobson
Preggo_Basashi skrev:
pauljacobson wrote:
drmrboss skrev:

Do Tactics check when you have extra time.

A GM playing almost without tactics on 1-2 mins/ game can win most amateurs on 1-2 hours/ game.

Why? Understanding of chess/ position/ intution  are  x10 times more important than tactics.

Well yeah I think that is partly true in the quick games, however if you watch a player like Nakamura playing blitz or even bullet here on chess.com he always seems to win due to being tactically superior. 

Meh, not really.

I've seen him hang rooks and queens, but his GM opponents miss the opportunity. I've seen Erik Hansen playing live online, curse at himself for missing simple tactics vs HIkaru.

 

The point is if you put someone under enough pressure strategically, then they'll blunder 1, 2, or 3 move tactics even if they're GMs. That's why it's misleading to tell people things like "only study tactics until 2000" It's a load of crap.

 

In the 2013 world chess championship match, there was a double blunder. IIRC Carlsen blundered a pawn to a simple 2-3 move tactic, and Anand missed it. Because they were busy worrying about other elements (and I assume a championship match is psychologically difficult)...

but anyway, the point is clear, it's not really all about tactics.

Well, sure they blunder but usually I find when watching top level games that the player who is superior tactically is the one who wins. Obviously tactics is not everything, but you often see game that could have easily been won if a super simple tactic was not missed.

avatar_legend

^imbacon is wrong

Preggo_Basashi
pauljacobson wrote:
Preggo_Basashi skrev:
pauljacobson wrote:
drmrboss skrev:

Do Tactics check when you have extra time.

A GM playing almost without tactics on 1-2 mins/ game can win most amateurs on 1-2 hours/ game.

Why? Understanding of chess/ position/ intution  are  x10 times more important than tactics.

Well yeah I think that is partly true in the quick games, however if you watch a player like Nakamura playing blitz or even bullet here on chess.com he always seems to win due to being tactically superior. 

Meh, not really.

I've seen him hang rooks and queens, but his GM opponents miss the opportunity. I've seen Erik Hansen playing live online, curse at himself for missing simple tactics vs HIkaru.

 

The point is if you put someone under enough pressure strategically, then they'll blunder 1, 2, or 3 move tactics even if they're GMs. That's why it's misleading to tell people things like "only study tactics until 2000" It's a load of crap.

 

In the 2013 world chess championship match, there was a double blunder. IIRC Carlsen blundered a pawn to a simple 2-3 move tactic, and Anand missed it. Because they were busy worrying about other elements (and I assume a championship match is psychologically difficult)...

but anyway, the point is clear, it's not really all about tactics.

Well, sure they blunder but usually I find when watching top level games that the player who is superior tactically is the one who wins. Obviously tactics is not everything, but you often see game that could have easily been won if a super simple tactic was not missed.

Their tactics are super impressive... but the 20 move that come before that impress me too.

They obviously know tons of ideas and patterns that let them put on a lot of pressure in almost any opening, any position type, etc.

pauljacobson
avatar_legend skrev:

^imbacon is wrong

Care to expand on that?