Probably agree.

Agree. 

Also, I would argue that there is no one perfect line.  If chess was ever solved, we would find that the starting position is either +1, =, or -1 (I believe =).  Consider if it is =.  Then every move white can make will result in a position with black to move which is either = or -1.  In that case I would argue every white first move that retains the draw is "perfect", since it cannot be bettered.

I think we would find that many GM games have been "perfect" in this definition, ie at no point did either player make a move that gave away the draw.

I disagree - you are not considering the time factor

Chess is a dead draw by perfect play on both sides - agree or diasagree?

dead draw and perfect play doesn't combine well

anything requiring perfect play is a dead draw, unless I don't get what 'dead draw' means

Chess is a draw with perfect play, unless your opponent is Ubik42.

In that case it is a win

are you family of Chuck Norris?

this is a dead draw

Perfect play should be aimed at avoiding dead draws

especially considering the feeble opposition faced

Never heard of her.

Ubik42 wrote:

pdela wrote:

Ubik42 wrote:

Chess is a draw with perfect play, unless your opponent is Ubik42.

are you family of Chuck Norris?

Never heard of her.

Wow, triple irony. The first time i have the pleasure of watching one in chess.com forums. This is very rare to see in general. You deserve at least a trophy.

Where is muh trophy.

Just a draw. Agree.

In your showcase, go and verify that it has been sent.

I think it is a draw, because if white makes a perfect move, black can make the perfect refutation, and it will eventually continue until it is a draw.

Aha! A trophy! My thanks, and it goes to show that chess is a win!

i wonder what can he/she say about this profound truth:

 In 1946, W.F. Streeter examined the results of 5,598 games played in 45 international chess tournaments between 1851 and 1932.^[2] Streeter found that overall White scored 53.4% (W: 38.12; D: 30.56; L: 31.31).^[3] White scored 52.55% in 1851–78 (W:45.52; D: 14.07; L: 40.41), 52.77% in 1881–1914 (W: 36.89; D: 31.76; L: 31.35), and 55.47% in 1919–32 (W: 36.98; D: 36.98; L: 26.04).^[2] Streeter concluded, "It thus appears that it is becoming increasingly difficult to win with Black, but somewhat easier to draw."^[2][4]

Just a question, Ubik42 , when you said "Never heard of her" were you talking about Chuck Norris or family ? In your comment on 2ond page

It's a draw with perfect play on both sides. White or black might manage to win a pawn but the game would still end in draw. Humans will never achieve perfect play and can't even play the 7, 6 or even 5 men endgame perfectly. Chess engines would wait a few decades to play perfectly.