Chess is NOT a sport!!!
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Hm, ok sport or not sport, whats the big deal ? It is a game, developed for fun, turn out into serious something (if you dont want to say sport) It have rules, competitions olympics now bussines also. Personaly I don't care if you call it or not call it sport. You should just argue that sport has to have physical side too.
Jun 30, 2008
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#143
HiPe wrote: Hm, ok sport or not sport, whats the big deal ? It is a game, developed for fun, turn out into serious something (if you dont want to say sport) It have rules, competitions olympics now bussines also. Personaly I don't care if you call it or not call it sport. You should just argue that sport has to have physical side too.
totally agree with you, now let have a beer and a good game of chess shall we?!
"I will reduce them to quivering masses of jello in short order."When you older, if the necessary events transpire and you mature sufficiently, it's likely you will read this and cringe. The arrogance, the presumption, the naivety, its laughable. And whether it’s a sport, an activity, whatever, its semantics… intelligent people stopped debating crap like this decades, perhaps even centuries ago. Have a nice day.
789159 wrote:
exiledcanuck wrote:
exiledcanuck wrote:
What I have read here thus far.
Not a sport:
Sports are physical like darts, and bowls, and archery
IOC definition doesn't count (for a number of reasons)
Dictionaries describe sports in such a way that chess can not be a sport
If you think chess is a sport you are an idiot
Is a sport:
IOC describes it as such
Even if you limit to physical realm chess uses same amount of physical activity as darts.
The mental side of chess can be exhausting
Oxford Dictionary doesn't limit sport to physical
What about some special olympics that remove most of the physical aspect of a sport?
What about exception sports like pistol shooting?
If you think chess is not a sport you are an idiot.
Hence the reason you are not a supreme court judge or somone with power. If you were, you would base your decision on what you knew before the case began, in this case a couple of definitions (and no sources even for those). The above is a fairly accurate summary of this thread. maybe this isn't quite objective, but it seems your reasons are very generic, while those opposing your opinion are very specific. Also, while those opposing your opinion counter your remarks, you just reiterate what you said in the first post over and over. Oh, and touché is used to acknowledge when your opponent has a good point. Unless I missed something, that wasn't the idea of your post.
You have a very good point and is very informative post but just picked up the wrong quote. That is what you missed. It would have been excellent
exiledcanuck wrote:
"Chess is not--even in the LOOSEST sense--a sport" and yet the arguement is based on a line from a dictionary talking about the physical.
What if chess pieces weighed 20kg?
This is a good one. You are good at thinking outside the box as they say. No wonder you are in the chess community
exiledcanuck wrote:
What really needs to be done here is define sport. And by that I don't mean read a bunch of dictionaries to figure it out. I mean actually get to the root of what each of us uses to define a sport, it is definitely more complicated than a one line dictionary definition.
What makes sqaush a sport but 4 square a game?
The physical element will make some things sports to some but not others. That doesn't make either side wrong. But argueing our way through a dictionary is silly.
I go with this. Making arguments using definitions for the word sport available in dictionaries or encyclopedia is not enough. If we do we'll confine ourselves limited in some ways. I think we need to include the merit of decisions made so far by any Sports Governing Bodies that considers chess is a sport.
So when do we get turned into Jello?
Jun 30, 2008
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#150
YIKES!!! Give me some time to read the posts. I have been WORKING at my JOB for the last 9 hours. Some people have a JOB and WORK for a living. GET A JOB, people!
Quickly scrolling through them, I see ANGER, TROLLS, FLAMERS, VENOM. Just as I predicited. Not much in the way of SCHOLARLY debate as I am used to, but I will indulge you. Just give me an hour or two.
cheater_1 wrote:
YIKES!!! Give me some time to read the posts. I have been WORKING at my JOB for the last 9 hours. Some people have a JOB and WORK for a living. GET A JOB, people!
Quickly scrolling through them, I see ANGER, TROLLS, FLAMERS, VENOM. Just as I predicited. Not much in the way of SCHOLARLY debate as I am used to, but I will indulge you. Just give me an hour or two.
Yeah, give him some time, he needs to come up with some more poor and inaccurate sources that look real so that he can tell you that they are the ULTIMATE source.
just go back to threads about computer chess cheater_1 , or at least something with a point, not just settling the " Great" debate about wether chess is a sport or not.
No, chess isn't a sport. However, technically, moving the pieces requires movement of the body, but i'm sure you have an arguement set up for that. Who would start an arguement with intelectuals without it?
Jun 30, 2008
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#154
It is difficult to define sport, isn't it? The problem of course ends up being that once you think you've defined it, then you test it on various things (football, boxing, synchronized swimming, ping pong, chess, baseball, etc.) And then you end up realizing that not only is it difficult to come up with a closed form definition, but it is also somewhat thought-provoking to decide whether (for example) synchronized swimming, diving, competitive ballroom dance, etc. are in fact sports.
cheater_1 wrote:
I'VE saved my ACE IN THE HOLE for the end. I have been waiting, watching, testing, but no one has posted the definition of CHESS. SHAME ON YOU ALL. It has been killing me to wait til post #100, but I had to.
Once again, I am consulting a branch of the OFFICIAL OXFORD WEBSITE. The only difference from LOOMIS' website is that it is the free version. What? You think the defintions are watered down or incorrect? You think that because it's free it's not credible? You people are making me sick to my stomach. What dope pays to get a defintion? YIKES!!
CHESS • noun a board game for two players, the object of which is to put the opponent’s king under a direct attack, leading to checkmate.
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/chess
For the THIRD time I rest my case. How many times must I rest my case. Is there no end to the amount of trolls that this topic can attract?
I think I just wandered into a den of trolls. GET ME OUTTA HERE!!!
I don't get your point?
Basketball is a game...fottball is a game. They are also sports. Not a good arguement
Jun 30, 2008
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#156
Agreed. Games and sports are not mutually exclusive.
I dislike the tone of the original poster, but I think this entire thread would be interesting to read, since I have had many thoughts on the "what constitutes a sport" question. And no, I don't think chess is a sport.
Eh, yet another desperate attention to attract attention to yourself Cheater 1. If people never posted or even gave you a second look you yourself would be reduced to a pile of "jello". I don't even think you believe in half the things you post you just post it because you know you'll get attention and spark peoples emotions. You pick things you know you can back up, so you can't be horribly disproven. I see no reason in arguing, thats truly giving you exactly what you want, more attention. Hopefully people will realize this and put a stop to you and your "reign". Your not doing this just to get under peoples skin and prove the facts, you're merely doing it to gain attention using contraversial topics to gain it.
cheater_1 wrote:
YIKES!!! Give me some time to read the posts. I have been WORKING at my JOB for the last 9 hours. Some people have a JOB and WORK for a living. GET A JOB, people!
Quickly scrolling through them, I see ANGER, TROLLS, FLAMERS, VENOM. Just as I predicited. Not much in the way of SCHOLARLY debate as I am used to, but I will indulge you. Just give me an hour or two.
yea, now that schools over I have way to much time on my hands. And I'm not old enough to legally get a job where I live.
Jun 30, 2008
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#160
First, a response to FISHING. Try telling the person who spent 2 hours trying to land that SAILFISH that he or she is not participating in a sport. If I were that fisherman, I'd give you a roundhouse right to the jaw. Fishing satisfies what a sport is, CLEARLY.
Second, I make no apologies for my tone. It is who I am. I have a very condescending, entitling, arrogant tone even in real life. My demeanor has gotten me in much trouble in my life--it just happens to get magnified a wee bit on the www.
Third, cheater_1's TROLL LIST currently has 56 members. If people would stop attacking the messenger (me) and respond to the question with some form of civility, I may respect you all a bit more. Until then...........
Marshal_Dillon - Can you please back up that ultimate statement of forbidden professionals from competing against amateurs in all sports with some sort of reference. I have never heard anything even remotely similar to that before.
You're in NZ, so it may not apply to you, but in the US you should check with your local school board or with the administration of your college or university. Most do have rules preventing professional athletes from playing because it isn't fair to the other players.